Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 10th Sep 2013 18:25 UTC
Apple Apple's event is going on right now - and most of the new stuff already leaked weeks and months ahead of time. So, we're getting an iPhone 5S, an iPhone 5C, and iOS7 will be available later this month. I like the design of the 5C more than of the 5S; it's more playful, colourful - harking back to the coloured iMacs and PowerMac G3s. Too bad it doesn't come in red.

The fingerprint sensor in the 5S is interesting, but I wonder how accurate it will be in the real world; on top of that, with all the NSA news, I'm not particularly keen on Apple reading my fingerprint all the time. Supposedly, applications don't have access to it and it's not stored in the cloud, but I have little to no trust for companies.

The biggest news for me is the fact that the iPhone 5S has a new chip - the A7 - which has the honour of being the first 64bit chip inside a smartphone. iOS7 and first party Apple applications are all 64bit, and Xcode obviously supports it. While this obviously future-proofs the platform for more RAM, I wonder what other motives are involved here. ARM desktops and laptops, perhaps?

I doubt 64bit will provide much benefit today, but you have to hand it to Apple: at least they're done with the transition before it's even needed.

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RE[5]: so so
by WereCatf on Wed 11th Sep 2013 14:24 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: so so"
WereCatf
Member since:
2006-02-15

SD-cards are quite irrelevant to the Average Joe as they just don't use such stuff -- I, at least, only know of one, single non-geek person who has an SD-card in their phones -- and part of the reason for that is how cumbersome they are to use with Android; they are treated as a separate entity in the storage system, you can't install apps or stuff on there unless you've got a rooted system and so on. This stuff should be fixed properly, maybe SD-cards would become more attractive then.

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RE[6]: so so
by darknexus on Wed 11th Sep 2013 14:56 in reply to "RE[5]: so so"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

SD-cards are quite irrelevant to the Average Joe as they just don't use such stuff -- I, at least, only know of one, single non-geek person who has an SD-card in their phones -- and part of the reason for that is how cumbersome they are to use with Android; they are treated as a separate entity in the storage system, you can't install apps or stuff on there unless you've got a rooted system and so on. This stuff should be fixed properly, maybe SD-cards would become more attractive then.

Possibly, but you still do have to maintain a certain level of separation between internal and external storage, else the user won't know where their media has actually been stored. It's not a problem if you only have one additional sd card and leave it in, but when you start to swap them out you do at least want to have some idea which files are on which card so as to not remove it at the wrong time and be able to find them again when you want them. Some Android apps are more intelligent than others in handling sd cards, e.g. many media players will index the card along with the internal flash and present a unified view.

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RE[6]: so so
by tkeith on Wed 11th Sep 2013 16:28 in reply to "RE[5]: so so"
tkeith Member since:
2010-09-01

Well that's partly true. They are treated as a separate entity, but you can install apps on them without rooting on stock android as of 2.2 I think. Some manufacturers might disable this, but Android is capable.

I doubt they will "fix" this though. You can't mount the SD card to two different OS's at the same time and make it work like a normal SD card. IMO SD card is nice, but the inherent downsides outweigh the benefits.

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RE[7]: so so
by WereCatf on Wed 11th Sep 2013 16:34 in reply to "RE[6]: so so"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

I doubt they will "fix" this though. You can't mount the SD card to two different OS's at the same time and make it work like a normal SD card.


That only matters to people who swap the cards in and out. I don't know anyone who does that, so I don't know how important that is to the Average Joes -- the geeks and the one Average Joe that I know who use SD-cards only plop a card in there to increase the available amount of space, but once the card is in there it doesn't come out unless it breaks. As such an easy fix would be to ask how to treat the card when it's plopped in there: one that can be used on multiple devices, ie. FAT32 and so on, or as an integral part of the device and therefore integrated into the filesystem.

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RE[6]: so so
by tylerdurden on Thu 12th Sep 2013 03:17 in reply to "RE[5]: so so"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

So why does the best selling Android phone support an SD card, if there is such non-demand for it?

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RE[7]: so so
by WereCatf on Thu 12th Sep 2013 03:54 in reply to "RE[6]: so so"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

So why does the best selling Android phone support an SD card, if there is such non-demand for it?


That's a non-sequitur: you're making the association that the SD-card support is the reason for its popularity and you're ignoring everything else. Marketing, brand-recognition, all the various deals that got them in that place in the first hand -- nooo, obviously they don't mean nothing, it's all thanks to the SD-card support.

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RE[6]: so so
by ilovebeer on Sat 14th Sep 2013 18:45 in reply to "RE[5]: so so"
ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

SD-cards are quite irrelevant to the Average Joe as they just don't use such stuff -- I, at least, only know of one, single non-geek person who has an SD-card in their phones -- and part of the reason for that is how cumbersome they are to use with Android; they are treated as a separate entity in the storage system, you can't install apps or stuff on there unless you've got a rooted system and so on. This stuff should be fixed properly, maybe SD-cards would become more attractive then.

I'm not sure why you think sd cards in cell phones (which has been around for years & years) are irrelevant. I know a lot of Average Joe people who care if there's support for sd cards when they're shopping for a new cell phone. Practically none of them have ever mentioned installing things to it and practically all of them have made mention to using sd for extra storage (for pictures, music, video clips, etc). The use of sd cards is certainly not reserved for geeks unless the Average Joe is now considered to be a geek as well.

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