Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 10th Sep 2013 18:25 UTC
Apple Apple's event is going on right now - and most of the new stuff already leaked weeks and months ahead of time. So, we're getting an iPhone 5S, an iPhone 5C, and iOS7 will be available later this month. I like the design of the 5C more than of the 5S; it's more playful, colourful - harking back to the coloured iMacs and PowerMac G3s. Too bad it doesn't come in red.

The fingerprint sensor in the 5S is interesting, but I wonder how accurate it will be in the real world; on top of that, with all the NSA news, I'm not particularly keen on Apple reading my fingerprint all the time. Supposedly, applications don't have access to it and it's not stored in the cloud, but I have little to no trust for companies.

The biggest news for me is the fact that the iPhone 5S has a new chip - the A7 - which has the honour of being the first 64bit chip inside a smartphone. iOS7 and first party Apple applications are all 64bit, and Xcode obviously supports it. While this obviously future-proofs the platform for more RAM, I wonder what other motives are involved here. ARM desktops and laptops, perhaps?

I doubt 64bit will provide much benefit today, but you have to hand it to Apple: at least they're done with the transition before it's even needed.

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RE[3]: so so
by kragil on Wed 11th Sep 2013 17:47 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: so so"
kragil
Member since:
2006-01-04

1. Screen size

Well, you can increase the screen size without increasing the phone size, some Android phones did that and it is a win-win IMO

2. At 4", full HD

Not my point, my point was that based on specs the Moto X was called mid-range and nobody seems to say that about the Iphone now.

3. There is a reason that iphones have a specific resolution

see above

4. If your OS cannot extract any benefit from additional cores why add them?

see above

5. RAM.

Maybe we are at a point where more RAM is pointless, but history shows that at some point RAM is a very limiting factor. First two iphones had only 128mb, like that HTC G1. That was not enough really fast and you didn't get any more OS updates. So having enough RAM or cores can future-proof your phone.

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RE[4]: so so
by galvanash on Wed 11th Sep 2013 20:31 in reply to "RE[3]: so so"
galvanash Member since:
2006-01-25

Not my point, my point was that based on specs the Moto X was called mid-range and nobody seems to say that about the Iphone now.


Oh, well we totally agree then... I was looking at your comment from the other direction. I see no reason at all to call the Moto X a "mid-range" phone either - by all accounts I have seen it is a damned nice device that is easily competitive with what others call "high-end" Android devices (quad-core, 2GB Ram, big honking screen, etc.)

Maybe we are at a point where more RAM is pointless, but history shows that at some point RAM is a very limiting factor. First two iphones had only 128mb, like that HTC G1. That was not enough really fast and you didn't get any more OS updates. So having enough RAM or cores can future-proof your phone.


I agree here too, but then again it may have no tangible impact at all. I was just pointing out it is hard to tell with the iphone because there is nothing to really compare it to since there are no 2GB iOS devices in existence yet.

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RE[5]: so so
by tylerdurden on Thu 12th Sep 2013 08:20 in reply to "RE[4]: so so"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

I think you may be defining lo,mid, and high-range based on the price of the device, whereas other people define them based on specs.

I'm on the second group. Spec-wise, the iPhone ever since the 4s (or perhaps even earlier) has been a mid-range specs wise, with a high-range price.

Apple's devices tend to carry half the internal storage, half the RAM, half the Cores, smaller screen with lower resolution, and sometimes they adopt the latest connection/radio technologies behind the competition. Perhaps the camera technology is the one of the few specs Apple can compete with in the high-end. A lot of people seem to love the design of Apple's products and the ecosystem under which the iPhone operates.

Of note that whenever Apple has the edge in specs their marketing revolves around them. E.g. when "retina" was introduced, Apple the point was made over and over about the importance of higher DPI, larger screen size, and higher resolution. But once other devices not only caught up with, and Apple's screen technology. Suddenly specs don't matter, in fact the higher the DPI resolution and scree size the worse it is. When just a few quarters before they made the exact opposite argument.

IMO it's interesting how most of Apple's marketing revolves about a subjective qualitative argument like "experience." Because they know they should not highlight the poorer specs of their devices.

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