Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 13th Sep 2013 23:56 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

A team within Nokia had Android up and running on the company's Lumia handsets well before Microsoft and Nokia began negotiating Microsoft’s $7.2 billion acquisition of Nokia's mobile phone and services business, according to two people briefed on the effort who declined to be identified because the project was confidential. Microsoft executives were aware of the existence of the project, these people said.

Another person said the idea of Nokia using Android wasn't a part of Microsoft’s discussions with the company about an acquisition, even though that was widely recognized as a possibility.

Windows Phone never fit into Nokia's DNA. It's too closed, too external, too controlled; Nokia had little influence over its own destiny with Windows Phone. It's not surprising that many of the brightest minds in the company left in the wake of the Windows Phone announcement (such as the team now at Jolla).

Nokia should have gone Android.

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reduz
Member since:
2006-02-25

I'm sorry, but at this point I don't see what people sees in Windows Phone.

Multitasking is terrible, most apps even the native ones take ages to resume.

The user interface is confusing. Color codes for icons are great for quickly finding what you need. In Windows Phone everything looks the same and you have to look at it alphabetically.

Live tiles and toast notifications seem great in concept, but due to the horrible multitasking. It makes the app (gtalk, skype, etc) open to see what the message is, and if you currently don't have 3G (on subway) you can't even see a message you know you received a few minutes ago.

Count how many steps it takes to call someone from your address book from pushing the phone icon. On Android it's 1, on WP it's 4.

Not even for development the phone is good, starting by the fact that the screen must be unlocked for you to upload your app. What the fuck?? Then trying the DirectX demos, the simple marble ball demo starts nicely, then drops to 1fps for no reason.

So again, the phone OS is really green. It's promising but it needs a lot more development time to even match Android or iOS.

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Dano Member since:
2006-01-22

I'm sorry, but at this point I don't see what people sees in Windows Phone. Multitasking is terrible, most apps even the native ones take ages to resume.

It's been a while since you played around with it I take it. The new Nokia's don't have any resume issue.


The user interface is confusing. Color codes for icons are great for quickly finding what you need. In Windows Phone everything looks the same and you have to look at it alphabetically.

The tiles are faster than pushing through pages and pages of icons in no particular order. Even if you have Android icons arranged perfectly...if you have a lot of apps you keep moving through page after page. The WP8 tiles are great for notifications, but isn't it much easier just flicking to the WP8 apps list and hitting a character to select the first letter of your app? Not to mention the integration on WP8 is better so you don't need a bunch of different apps to do things between Facebook, Google Mail, etc.


Live tiles and toast notifications seem great in concept, but due to the horrible multitasking. It makes the app (gtalk, skype, etc) open to see what the message is, and if you currently don't have 3G (on subway) you can't even see a message you know you received a few minutes ago.


Not sure what you mean here.


Count how many steps it takes to call someone from your address book from pushing the phone icon. On Android it's 1, on WP it's 4.


I count three steps. You can make a tile for that and do it in two. Or use the voice command and do it in one. There are probably other ways also.


Not even for development the phone is good, starting by the fact that the screen must be unlocked for you to upload your app. What the fuck?? Then trying the DirectX demos, the simple marble ball demo starts nicely, then drops to 1fps for no reason.


Your crazy. Visual Studio Express WP8 with it's GUI SMOKES Google's SDK. You have to use Basic for Android to even get close. Managed code is the key here.

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