Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 16th Sep 2013 21:44 UTC
Games

Gabe Newell, the co-founder and managing director of Valve, said today that Linux is the future of gaming despite the minuscule share of the market it has today.

That seems hard to believe, given that Newell acknowledged Linux gaming generally accounts for less than one percent of the market by any measure including players, player minutes, and revenue. But Valve is going to do its best to make sure Linux becomes the future of gaming by extending its Steam distribution platform to hardware designed for living rooms.

"Half-Life 3 - SteamBox/Linux exclusive". There, chicken and egg problem solved.

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RE[2]: SteamOS Anyone?
by allanregistos on Wed 18th Sep 2013 04:32 UTC in reply to "RE: SteamOS Anyone?"
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2011-02-10

They could do something like ChromeOS, which is a build of Gentoo with lots of Google sauce on top.

It's really more important for them to be as vanilla as possible so they can capture users of other distros. I like running Fedora, and I'm not particularly inclined to run Ubuntu. I would check out Steam if there was a client for it.*

*(I haven't actually looked into this. There might be a package for this somewhere.)

It's important to know that they are working the Linux Steam client at day one on top of Ubuntu 12.04. It makes sense, rather than using Gentoo. You may argue along the lines of technical superiority or whatsoever, but business is business, even if you have computer scientists at your disposal, it makes sense to use a linux distro with a commercial backup. The point is your scientists needs to focus on the job(Steam), and not to be distracted by customizing the OS(unless of course for dev tools) which is a total waste of time.

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RE[3]: SteamOS Anyone?
by Flatland_Spider on Wed 18th Sep 2013 13:36 in reply to "RE[2]: SteamOS Anyone?"
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2006-09-01

I totally agree with that. Outsource what isn't a core competency.

It makes sense to make Ubuntu the first target. It's easy to install the proprietary drivers, it targets the desktop, and it has market share/mindshare.

You missed my point. Android is the Linux kernel plus the Android userland (Android/Linux), and it diverges quite a bit from a normal GNU/Linux distro because of that.

ChromeOS is much closer to a regular GNU/Linux distro. It's been customized by Google which makes it a specialty distro, but it's still pretty generic. SteamOS being ChromeOS like could mean a heavily customized version of Ubuntu, Debian, RHEL, Arch, or whatever Valve decides to use.

Furthermore, it doesn't behoove them to get too crazy with the customization, like using Android/Linux for the Steambox, because it would cut them off from the larger GNU/Linux pool. There are people who simply aren't going to run Ubuntu. Valve doesn't have to support every distro under the sun, but they can make some decisions that would make it easy for people to port if the Steam client if they want to.

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RE[4]: SteamOS Anyone?
by allanregistos on Thu 19th Sep 2013 00:29 in reply to "RE[3]: SteamOS Anyone?"
allanregistos Member since:
2011-02-10

I totally agree with that. Outsource what isn't a core competency.

It makes sense to make Ubuntu the first target. It's easy to install the proprietary drivers, it targets the desktop, and it has market share/mindshare.

You missed my point. Android is the Linux kernel plus the Android userland (Android/Linux), and it diverges quite a bit from a normal GNU/Linux distro because of that.

ChromeOS is much closer to a regular GNU/Linux distro. It's been customized by Google which makes it a specialty distro, but it's still pretty generic. SteamOS being ChromeOS like could mean a heavily customized version of Ubuntu, Debian, RHEL, Arch, or whatever Valve decides to use.

Furthermore, it doesn't behoove them to get too crazy with the customization, like using Android/Linux for the Steambox, because it would cut them off from the larger GNU/Linux pool. There are people who simply aren't going to run Ubuntu. Valve doesn't have to support every distro under the sun, but they can make some decisions that would make it easy for people to port if the Steam client if they want to.

Ok. The Steambox must be a customized version of Linux, but it needs to be compatible with the rest of Linux distribution by using the whole GNU/Linux userland. So an existing user can still install Steam and be done with it, or he just can buy the Steambox if he is not a Linux user. And I think this user is the target of Valve so they need not to worry about the number of Linux desktop users. Valve do not need to market the Steam brand and say "Hey, install Linux so you can play our games." Instead, they will say to existing Linux users: "Install our Steam client so you can play games." And they will say this to Windows and MacOSx users: "Buy our Steambox." Without bothering them of this Linux thingy.

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Edited 2013-09-19 00:31 UTC

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