Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 20th Sep 2013 23:33 UTC
Windows

Speaking at Microsoft's financial analysts meeting today, CEO Steve Ballmer was refreshingly realistic about the company's struggles in smartphones and tablets. "Mobile devices. We have almost no share."

Right. Now that Ballmer himself admits it, can we please settle the discussion? Windows Phone has been a failure up until now.

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RE[2]: Doesn't matter
by andydread on Sat 21st Sep 2013 12:40 UTC in reply to "RE: Doesn't matter"
andydread
Member since:
2009-02-02

Second largest smartphone OS in India 5.6% marketshare
http://m.bgr.in/manufacturers/nokia/windows-phone-claims-indias-sec...

Second largest smartphone OS in Latin America
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/press/2013/aug13/08-21wplatampr...

8.2% market share in EU5
11.6% market share in Mexico
8.6% market share in UK
~10% market share in Germany
9.4% market share in France

http://www.kantarworldpanel.com/Global/News/Record-share-for-Window...

15% market share in New Zealand
http://i.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/business/technology/9169975/Hard...

Second largest smartphone OS, 11.8% market share in the Middle East
http://www.hispanicbusiness.com/2013/9/12/two_phones_in_five_in_the...

There are others:
Italy 9% market share
Australia ~5.8% market share
Spain ~7.8% market share
Poland 16% market share

Russia 8.2% market share
http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-08/mts-bolsters-windows-sm...

FWIW, I've never claimed Windows Phone has a large market share, only that their share is growing, and that this growth is accelerating. Something obvious after reading the source links.

Also, Mr. Ballmer's purpose (if you or Thom actually watched the FAM) is to illustrate the upside potential and was spoken specifically in the context of the Nokia acquisition.

Of course this,won't change your mind, or Thom's mind, or the other acolytes on this website, but the inconvenient truth for you all is that there is a clear and established momentum.


Well wish them luck Nelson.. Wish them luck. Because the only manufacturer that is pushing Windows Phone is Nokia. And all that market share you listed there can be attributed to Nokia. No other manufacturer. So those numbers you posted are basically as far as they will go until other manufacturers get on board and they are not because MS pissed them off with their Android extortion scheme. There is no enthusiasm from the device manufacturers to push Windows phone after how MS has threatened their business.

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RE[3]: Doesn't matter
by unclefester on Sun 22nd Sep 2013 04:36 in reply to "RE[2]: Doesn't matter"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

WP8 already has a bigger marketshare than Apple in many countries. This is remarkable achievement for a brand new OS.

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RE[4]: Doesn't matter
by japh on Sun 22nd Sep 2013 10:51 in reply to "RE[3]: Doesn't matter"
japh Member since:
2005-11-11

WP8 already has a bigger marketshare than Apple in many countries. This is remarkable achievement for a brand new OS.


What is remarkable is the decline in windows market share on mobile devices. Microsoft is really not a new player in this. On the contrary, of the three large ones, Microsoft has been in the smartphone business longest by far.

No one would have said it is remarkable if they had kept their market share from the early 2000. Now, that they're way south of that mark, it is an achievement?

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RE[3]: Doesn't matter
by Dano on Sun 22nd Sep 2013 05:30 in reply to "RE[2]: Doesn't matter"
Dano Member since:
2006-01-22

Because the only manufacturer that is pushing Windows Phone is Nokia. And all that market share you listed there can be attributed to Nokia. No other manufacturer.


iOS is only supplied by Apple. Your point?

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RE[4]: Doesn't matter
by indieinvader on Sun 22nd Sep 2013 22:13 in reply to "RE[3]: Doesn't matter"
indieinvader Member since:
2009-08-11

Apple actually makes money selling its devices, for one.

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