Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 20th Sep 2013 23:33 UTC
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Speaking at Microsoft's financial analysts meeting today, CEO Steve Ballmer was refreshingly realistic about the company's struggles in smartphones and tablets. "Mobile devices. We have almost no share."

Right. Now that Ballmer himself admits it, can we please settle the discussion? Windows Phone has been a failure up until now.

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The 2 Ecosystems Rule
by PieterGen on Sat 21st Sep 2013 13:46 UTC
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2012-01-13

It seems like markets only have room for 2 large operating systems, our 2 ecosystems if you like. One closed sand one open. Here is my reasoning, comments welcome.

Servers: the "open" position is for *nix, the closed one for windows server. No space left for a second closed system, such as OSX server.

Mobile: open is Android, closed is iOS. No place left for more open systems such as sailfish, mer etc: Android is seen as open enough. No place for other closed systems either, such as bb or wp.

Desktop/laptop: closed is OSX, open is....Windows. Yes, it was much more open than other systems, gave users a huge choice in hardware, software etc. So it its seen as open enough. Linux (my own preference) is of course much more open, but in the eyes of consumers this is not really needed. So: no space for Linux.

So my theory is that markets support one big open (ish) system and one big closed one. And that additional systems, be they open or closed, will get "marginal" market shares.

If this is true, windows phone will only have a chance once iOS is gone...

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RE: The 2 Ecosystems Rule
by Soulbender on Sat 21st Sep 2013 17:40 in reply to "The 2 Ecosystems Rule"
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2005-08-18

the "open" position is for *nix, the closed one for windows server. No space left for a second closed system, such as OSX server.


Only if you ignore the BSD's, AIX, Solaris etc.

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RE[2]: The 2 Ecosystems Rule
by PieterGen on Sat 21st Sep 2013 18:49 in reply to "RE: The 2 Ecosystems Rule"
PieterGen Member since:
2012-01-13

There will always be a small percentage "other" systems, like Linux or even Haiku on the desktop, Blackberry or Symbian on mobile and proprietary UNIX variants such as AIX or Solaris on servers.....

....or I may be over simplifying ;)

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RE[2]: The 2 Ecosystems Rule
by darknexus on Sat 21st Sep 2013 22:46 in reply to "RE: The 2 Ecosystems Rule"
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2008-07-15

Only if you ignore the BSD's, AIX, Solaris etc.

The BSDs fit the definition of open *NIX, so that doesn't contradict the OP. As for Solaris, AIX, and other commercial UNIX flavors... how many of them are increasing their share? Most of them are, when their specialized hardware dies, being replaced with open *nix flavors these days. Many of these are no longer even supported; I think Solaris and possibly AIX might be the only ones still under any sort of active maintenance.

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RE: The 2 Ecosystems Rule
by Dano on Sat 21st Sep 2013 19:50 in reply to "The 2 Ecosystems Rule"
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2006-01-22

Your theory might not hold true. Other phone OS's have gone down in flames in the past and they had momentum too.

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RE[2]: The 2 Ecosystems Rule
by benytocamela on Sat 21st Sep 2013 22:16 in reply to "RE: The 2 Ecosystems Rule"
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2013-05-16

You mean, like Windows Mobile?

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