Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 20th Sep 2013 23:33 UTC
Windows

Speaking at Microsoft's financial analysts meeting today, CEO Steve Ballmer was refreshingly realistic about the company's struggles in smartphones and tablets. "Mobile devices. We have almost no share."

Right. Now that Ballmer himself admits it, can we please settle the discussion? Windows Phone has been a failure up until now.

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caudex
Member since:
2008-07-05

If you honestly believe that, then you aren't very experienced with other platforms and their available tools.

Microsoft's inability to follow standards and give developers the API:s they want is also hinders them from gaining more market. OpenGL ES 2 is one of those API:s.

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Visual Studio is very highly regarded by many, and I share the opinion that it is one of the best IDEs around. Not just that, but the quality of the documentation, debugging tools, and platform are top notch.

I've read articles comparing Windows Phone, Android, and iOS development and the WP environment is very competitive.

It is definitely an advantage for Microsoft that they have strong tooling with VS. That's a lowered barrier to entry to a lot of people.

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Dano Member since:
2006-01-22

Visual Studio for WP smokes everything else as far as a dev platform goes and documentation is way more approachable especially from MSDN.

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Dano Member since:
2006-01-22

If you honestly believe that, then you aren't very experienced with other platforms and their available tools.

Microsoft's inability to follow standards and give developers the API:s they want is also hinders them from gaining more market. OpenGL ES 2 is one of those API:s.


Working in Eclipse with pseudo Java is better, with no GUI IDE? Or using Objective C? There's always Direct3d.

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Deviate_X Member since:
2005-07-11

If you honestly believe that, then you aren't very experienced with other platforms and their available tools.

Microsoft's inability to follow standards and give developers the API:s they want is also hinders them from gaining more market. OpenGL ES 2 is one of those API:s.


The .net and Visual Studio simply destroy Android tools and XCode by a wide margin. The only people who think otherwise are inexperienced devs. However developers work with what they know, and that is the best tool for them.

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bnolsen Member since:
2006-01-06

pretty much tools people are productive with they will be productive with. IMHO visual studio is junk and it forces a very anrrow paradigm on developers, but its what younger devs have always used. So "what I'm used to using and how I do my development" ends up being the best tools on the market. And I sit back and curse MSs craptastic support of open standards (STL, etc) and even marginal support of c++ and worse 64bit support...and the absolute worst sin not being able to mix and match debug and release object files for testing.

Compared with xcoede or android i can't say as much but at least i can choose what platform for running android development and that *is* what I will target when the time comes.

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