Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 23rd Sep 2013 22:52 UTC
Apple

Apple today announced it has sold a record-breaking nine million new iPhone 5s and iPhone 5c models, just three days after the launch of the new iPhones on September 20. In addition, more than 200 million iOS devices are now running the completely redesigned iOS 7, making it the fastest software upgrade in history.

Impressive.

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RE[3]: Apples and Oranges
by Windows Sucks on Mon 23rd Sep 2013 23:46 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Apples and Oranges"
Windows Sucks
Member since:
2005-11-10

Interesting, companies like Sammy don't report numbers at all and yet get credit for selling millions.

And Android is credited at a billion sales when the numbers from Google are listed as activations.

Everyone massages their numbers.

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RE[4]: Apples and Oranges
by galvanash on Tue 24th Sep 2013 00:01 in reply to "RE[3]: Apples and Oranges"
galvanash Member since:
2006-01-25

Interesting, companies like Sammy don't report numbers at all and yet get credit for selling millions.

And Android is credited at a billion sales when the numbers from Google are listed as activations.

Everyone massages their numbers.


I wasn't comparing to any other company and don't care to...

I was simply curious as to why the media would use this number (9 million) as a yardstick when comparing to last years launch (5 miliion) when there is obviously a big colorful plastic elephant in the room in the form of a rebadged 2nd tier phone being included in the new numbers...

Its simple. The 5 million number last year didn't include sales of the repriced 4S, did it? I'm only pointing out we still don't know how many of the 5S model were sold. From anecdotal evidence it appears to have been quite a lot, even more than last year. Is it a crime to want to know the specifics?

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RE[5]: Apples and Oranges
by Windows Sucks on Tue 24th Sep 2013 00:40 in reply to "RE[4]: Apples and Oranges"
Windows Sucks Member since:
2005-11-10

Nothing wrong with wanting details but Apple has not split out their numbers since they started pushing their old phones down market. Including the launch last year.

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RE[5]: Apples and Oranges
by jared_wilkes on Tue 24th Sep 2013 01:01 in reply to "RE[4]: Apples and Oranges"
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2011-04-25

Apple is reporting a total number for what it deems new products. It never, or very rarely, gives product line segmentations. (This would be very valuable data to competitors and market analysts; Apple is already one of the more straightforward and transparent in reporting financial data.) It will give some segmentation insight by releasing numbers for new products. This is what they've done here. Perfectly consistent with their reporting methods. That you deem the 5C as not new, but rather last year's internal components with a new shell, and Apple considers it a new product is not really remarkable or worthy of suspicion or conspiracy theories.

Edited 2013-09-24 01:07 UTC

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RE[5]: Apples and Oranges
by SojoPhoto on Tue 24th Sep 2013 13:37 in reply to "RE[4]: Apples and Oranges"
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2011-12-08

Back in the days when Android was up and coming, Apple fans would always come down on Android users because Android was measured in total sales, instead of breaking it down by OEM.

I think that Apple has failed to move as many iPhone 5s phones as they had planned, and this is the issue. I haven't seen one of the people I know who buy Apple products with an iPhone 5s, but I have seen a bunch of 5c phones.

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