Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 23rd Sep 2013 22:52 UTC

Apple today announced it has sold a record-breaking nine million new iPhone 5s and iPhone 5c models, just three days after the launch of the new iPhones on September 20. In addition, more than 200 million iOS devices are now running the completely redesigned iOS 7, making it the fastest software upgrade in history.

Impressive.

RE[6]: Apples and Oranges
by galvanash on Tue 24th Sep 2013 18:46 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Apples and Oranges"

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2006-01-25

It's your argument that the 5C is irrelevant. So it being on shelves is irrelevant. The 5S is not sitting on shelves.

So...

3.4x (the number of 5S) + x (the number of 5C) = 9 million

x (the number of 5C) = 2.05 million

3.4x (the number of 5S) = 6.95 million

6.95 million is 39% greater than 5 million. (My previous post I typoed and entered 29%).

I was right, your not using math... that is pretty creative though.

The whole point is if there are 3.5 million 5Cs still in the channel after the launch weekend (and virtually no 5Ss) and Apple sold 9 million into the channel...

9 - 3.5 = 5.5 million

That is how many phones were sold to consumers in total.

If the mix was 80/20, then 80% of those were 5S models. That is 4.4 million. The 80/20 number comes from activations... There would be no activations on the 3.5 million sitting in inventory.

(btw - Im getting my 80/20 split estimate from here: http://9to5mac.com/2013/09/24/new-report-claims-china-leads-demand-... ),

Math is a wonderful thing when used correctly...

Edited 2013-09-24 18:53 UTC

RE[7]: Apples and Oranges
by jared_wilkes on Tue 24th Sep 2013 18:51 in reply to "RE[6]: Apples and Oranges"
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2011-04-25

No, the point is: you are making up numbers on top of a notoriously inaccurate analyst's made-up numbers and claiming they are superior to publicly released statements and statistical analysis of devices observed on networks to get the answers that you want in defiance of reality, logic, and basic comprehension.

RE[8]: Apples and Oranges
by galvanash on Tue 24th Sep 2013 19:10 in reply to "RE[7]: Apples and Oranges"
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2006-01-25

No, the point is: you are making up numbers on top of a notoriously inaccurate analyst's made-up numbers and claiming they are superior to publicly released statements and statistical analysis of devices observed on networks to get the answers that you want in defiance of reality, logic, and basic comprehension.

They ARE superior. Apple releases channel sales in their press releases. If inventory in the channel is gone after the launch weekend than channel sales = consumer sales. Except that didn't happen this time around...

Do you deny this? I just checked Apples store, there is a 24 hour turn around on the 5C. Radio Shack lists the 5C as available in store right now. ATT shows no delay in shipping them. Everyone seems to have plenty of 5Cs - that isn't "analysis", its just plain fact...

Does it make any sense to use activations percentages relative to channel volume when a pretty big chunk of the channel volume was never activated??????

Is your "analysis" that Apple sold 7 million 5Ss on launch? Please go ahead, put it in writing right here...

Edited 2013-09-24 19:12 UTC