Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 23rd Sep 2013 22:52 UTC
Apple

Apple today announced it has sold a record-breaking nine million new iPhone 5s and iPhone 5c models, just three days after the launch of the new iPhones on September 20. In addition, more than 200 million iOS devices are now running the completely redesigned iOS 7, making it the fastest software upgrade in history.

Impressive.

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RE[10]: Apples and Oranges
by galvanash on Tue 24th Sep 2013 19:37 UTC in reply to "RE[9]: Apples and Oranges"
galvanash
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2006-01-25

I say that Munster has no further insight than you (and I don't think you've got any) and yet you've latched on to his 3.5 million number which has no basis in any discernable data.


Only because there is no discernable data... There is however quite obviously 5Cs sitting in inventory - that has never happened before.

Do I know 3.5 million is accurate? No, but it sounds reasonable. Regardless, my point is some percentage of those 9 million sales didn't happen yet - relative to previous launches in which those sales did happen. Its apples and oranges, which was my point all along...

Look, if you believe your math, that the 5S undersold the 5 and that 3.5 million 5Cs remain unsold, it seems logical to expect that Apple will underperform for iPhone sales this quarter than they did last year. Would you like to wager on that? I'm willing to bet a space gray 5S for me and whatever you want for you.


No, I would not go that far. I will wager that Apple won't break out 5S/5C sales in their quarterlies... because if they did I suspect that although it may not be bad it won't look terribly good either relative to last year. They will report total iPhone sales like they always do, and having 2 new models will of course ultimately yield them more sales. They may even show a margin increase since they cut costs a bit on last years model.

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RE[11]: Apples and Oranges
by jared_wilkes on Tue 24th Sep 2013 20:10 in reply to "RE[10]: Apples and Oranges"
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2011-04-25

I will tell you right now that Apple won't break out individual models in their financial earnings because THEY NEVER HAVE. (This is my point: you try to speak from authority, but it's clear you don't know sh!t about Apple except for the sensationlist headlines you read and then choose to interpret as you see fit.)

So... now you... what? Agree that this launch and quarter of sales will be greater than last years? Or merely that you can't know? About 15 minutes, you were telling me you know exactly how many millions of product were sitting on shelfs and how many millions were actually sold but now you can't tell if Apple is doing better or worse than last year? Get real. Stop pretending.

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