Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 24th Sep 2013 22:45 UTC, submitted by ddc_
3D News, GL, DirectX

Few companies have been the target of as much criticism in the Linux community as Nvidia. Linus Torvalds himself last year called Nvidia the "single worst company" Linux developers have ever worked with, giving the company his middle finger in a public talk.

Nvidia is now trying to get on Linux developers' good side. Yesterday, Nvidia's Andy Ritger e-mailed developers of Nouveau, an open source driver for Nvidia cards that is built by reverse engineering Nvidia's proprietary drivers. Ritger wrote that "NVIDIA is releasing public documentation on certain aspects of our GPUs, with the intent to address areas that impact the out-of-the-box usability of NVIDIA GPUs with Nouveau. We intend to provide more documentation over time, and guidance in additional areas as we are able."

It wouldn't surprise me if this is related to the SteamOS announcement.

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RE[2]: Comment by lemur2
by lemur2 on Wed 25th Sep 2013 09:12 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by lemur2"
lemur2
Member since:
2007-02-17

"Unless there is a competitive open source Linux driver for nVidia graphics developed soon, nVidia will presumably start to loose all Linux business.


This will only happen for those that don't care about the latest OpenGL/OpenCL version support and performance level that the binary drivers currently have.
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Which would be Linux servers, embedded Linux, the vast majority of desktop Linux users and of course Android users (the Android Linux kernel supports a subset known as OpenGL ES).

http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/graphics/opengl.html

I can't think of any use for OpenCL under Android.

The Android Linux kernel would represent the majority usage of the Linux kernel by now.

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RE[3]: Comment by lemur2
by moondevil on Wed 25th Sep 2013 11:12 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by lemur2"
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2005-07-08

As expected, you failed to list anyone that cares about 3D content production.

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RE[4]: Comment by lemur2
by lemur2 on Wed 25th Sep 2013 11:36 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by lemur2"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

As expected, you failed to list anyone that cares about 3D content production.


I didn't list any set of people who would like to use OpenCL at all ... I only listed people who run Linux who wouldn't have a use for OpenCL. Which turns out to be most users of Linux.

Since I didn't even try to list people who would like to use OpenCL, why exactly is my omission of "anyone that cares about 3D content production" supposed to be a problem?

I don't in any way try to pretend that there aren't some people who would use OpenCL, and therefore wouldn't use the open source drivers in their current state.

My question to you is this ... why exactly are you trying to pretend that the current lack of support for OpenCL in open source drivers is in any way an issue for most of the people who run Linux, when clearly it simply isn't (for most).

Edited 2013-09-25 11:44 UTC

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