Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 27th Sep 2013 18:51 UTC
Games

We set out with a singular goal: bring the Steam experience, in its entirety, into the living-room. We knew how to build the user interface, we knew how to build a machine, and even an operating system. But that still left input - our biggest missing link. We realized early on that our goals required a new kind of input technology - one that could bridge the gap from the desk to the living room without compromises. So we spent a year experimenting with new approaches to input and we now believe we've arrived at something worth sharing and testing with you.

Where Microsoft and Sony show zero innovation with the Xbox One and the PS4, Valve is the one pushing limits. Their controller is quite, quite unique, and has a whole different approach than what we've seen before - instead of two inaccurate joysticks, it has two super-precise touchpads with advanced haptic feedback and the ability for both absolute and relative positioning. Go read the description - a summary won't do it justice. And, as always: hackable. Yes, even the controller is open and hackable. Wow.

They're on the right track here. If I were Microsoft or Sony, I'd start getting worried.

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Build Quality
by jazman777 on Fri 27th Sep 2013 18:54 UTC
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2013-02-27

Those things better have awesome build quality and work perfectly. Otherwise, they'll just be junk like so many non-Apple trackpads on laptops have been...

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RE: Build Quality
by bassbeast on Fri 27th Sep 2013 23:27 in reply to "Build Quality"
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2007-11-11

What amazes me is how badly Mr Holwerda has become a fanboy and nobody calls him on it. Sony and MSFT are bad, except when it comes to winPhone as he has one of those and thinks it wonderful so Apple and Google are bad in that case, and he is cheerleading so hard for valve with this he might as well break out the pom poms.

All they did was replace the sticks with trackpads...how many of you LOVE your laptop's trackpad? How many of you think its a better UI than a mouse? With a trackpad it all comes down to how accurate and sensitive they make the pad which means it comes down to price. If Valve goes for the same build cost as an Xbone or PS4 controller? Its gonna suck because you have to trade off performance for low cost.

It is like putting a Razor Naga against the X360 controller and having a snipe off, no contest as they sacrificed response time and accuracy for a lower BOM. Will this work? Well until you can hold one in your hand and its been put through its paces by a site like Anandtech or tom's Hardware I'll avoid judgement one way or another.

But the fanboy flag waving and cheerleading really needs to quit, this is reading less and less like a tech news site and more and more like somebody's blog. Its bad enough that /. turned into Reddit, lets not have OSnews turn into a fanboy blog, okay?

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RE[2]: Build Quality
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 27th Sep 2013 23:33 in reply to "RE: Build Quality"
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2005-06-29

What amazes me is how badly Mr Holwerda has become a fanboy and nobody calls him on it. Sony and MSFT are bad, except when it comes to winPhone as he has one of those and thinks it wonderful so Apple and Google are bad in that case, and he is cheerleading so hard for valve with this he might as well break out the pom poms.


...wat

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v RE[2]: Build Quality
by Dano on Fri 27th Sep 2013 23:34 in reply to "RE: Build Quality"
RE[2]: Build Quality
by M.Onty on Sat 28th Sep 2013 01:24 in reply to "RE: Build Quality"
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2009-10-23

What amazes me is how badly Mr Holwerda has become a fanboy and nobody calls him on it. Sony and MSFT are bad, except when it comes to winPhone as he has one of those and thinks it wonderful so Apple and Google are bad in that case, and he is cheerleading so hard for valve with this he might as well break out the pom poms.


What a load of shit. Thom seems to delight in having as many strong opinions as possible, but that's really not the definition of a fan, let alone a 'fanboy', despite him being "called out on it" about six times a week. He bothers to post stories, without getting paid, & you get to moan about it.

According to your profile you've posted over six hundred comments without contributing one story to this volunteer run site. Get used to it, dig up a few articles, write a few articles, or bugger off.

Yes, I am drunk. London Pride is nice.

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RE[2]: Build Quality
by Novan_Leon on Sat 28th Sep 2013 15:36 in reply to "RE: Build Quality"
Novan_Leon Member since:
2005-12-07

Give Valve a break here. I sincerely doubt they would propose this design without having a genuinely good reason to think it would be a step-up. They're not exactly a company to throw out gimmicks and try to be different just for the sake of being different.

I'll reserve judgement on the controller until I've seen it in action, but I'm always interested in innovation in whatever form it takes.

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RE[2]: Build Quality
by Soulbender on Sat 28th Sep 2013 17:50 in reply to "RE: Build Quality"
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2005-08-18

Just because he's not a negative, old grouch doesn't mean he's a rabid fanboi.

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RE[2]: Build Quality
by zima on Tue 1st Oct 2013 16:33 in reply to "RE: Build Quality"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

All they did was replace the sticks with trackpads...

Plus it was already done: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xperia_Play
(and without any enthusiastic uptake)

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RE[2]: Build Quality
by daedalus on Wed 2nd Oct 2013 12:15 in reply to "RE: Build Quality"
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2011-01-14

What amazes me is how badly Mr Holwerda has become a fanboy and nobody calls him on it. Sony and MSFT are bad, except when it comes to winPhone as he has one of those and thinks it wonderful so Apple and Google are bad in that case, and he is cheerleading so hard for valve with this he might as well break out the pom poms.
Given that he owns or has owned devices by all the above companies, it kinda rules out the whole fanboy thing from the start. Do you really know what you want to say there or are you just trolling? Just like he's not blindly against MSFT, since he likes their phone OS.

All they did was replace the sticks with trackpads...how many of you LOVE your laptop's trackpad?
The one on a Macbook is awesome, much prefer using that over a mouse to be honest. But I can't say the same for the trackpad on any non-Apple device unfortunately, so I do take your point. It will be a wait-and-see for this. But you can't write it off from the get-go either. It's not particularly expensive technology, especially compared to the multiple moving parts involved in a joystick.

I think the point here is that they're being innovative. At least there's that. Look at the PlayStation controller. It hasn't really changed since the Dual Shock Analogue came out for the PS1 - I found it horrible to use then and I find it horrible on the PS3 now. If it flops, I'm sure you can just plug in any old Logitech controller and use that instead.

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