Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 3rd Oct 2013 22:25 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones

Whether or not the Open fits your needs, one thing is clear: Mozilla needs more capable hardware to demonstrate Firefox OS' potential. The Open is good for someone whose alternative would be a basic flip phone, but the camera quality, connectivity, display and performance don't do full justice to the software.

A promising start, but clearly better hardware is needed. I'm really hoping Firefox OS gets a fair shot.

Thread beginning with comment 573848
To read all comments associated with this story, please click here.
Don't care much for it
by p13. on Fri 4th Oct 2013 07:19 UTC
p13.
Member since:
2005-07-10

While it's good that there's a truly open choice, the fact remains that it's an OS built around HTML. Me no comprendo. I thought webos taught us that this was a bad idea. Even they had to relent, and all the major apps used native code. It's just a stupid idea, i'm sorry. An ugly hack. Keep HTML and JS to the browser, please.

Reply Score: 5

RE: Don't care much for it
by Fergy on Fri 4th Oct 2013 07:27 in reply to "Don't care much for it"
Fergy Member since:
2006-04-10

While it's good that there's a truly open choice, the fact remains that it's an OS built around HTML. Me no comprendo. I thought webos taught us that this was a bad idea. Even they had to relent, and all the major apps used native code. It's just a stupid idea, i'm sorry. An ugly hack. Keep HTML and JS to the browser, please.

The reason webos failed is because only Palm could use it and they released bad phones. On top of that most of the world couldn't even buy the phones because they were only released to important countries.
The reason webos failed is because they did not work together. The webstandards they needed they had to make themselves. And because they were the only one using those standards nobody but webos developers would use them.

Clearly Palm did not understand the web. It is all about sharing and working together.

Reply Parent Score: 5

RE: Don't care much for it
by Kroc on Fri 4th Oct 2013 07:30 in reply to "Don't care much for it"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

They have the Unreal engine running in JS BTW: http://www.unrealengine.com/html5/

At this point in time, JS that's compiled down to byte-code, with type-hints, is the same as Java / Android. Is android not "native" enough either?

What you're complaining about is UI. If it looks like a browser, smells like a browser, then it's just not native enough, right?

You are aware that just about anything native can be compiled into JS? -- Including an MP4 decoder that can play HD video.

Here's MESS, all 300 machines worth of emulation, running in HTML5: http://jsmess.textfiles.com/

Firefox OS has the interesting benefit of an HTML5 interface, but also the ability to run "native" code (with some conversion).

Reply Parent Score: 4

RE[2]: Don't care much for it
by Soulbender on Fri 4th Oct 2013 11:13 in reply to "RE: Don't care much for it"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Hurrah for porting stuff to one of the most awful programming languages ever.

Reply Parent Score: 4

lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

It very impressive that the Unreal Engine has been implemented in JavaScript and can do all these cool things in the language but ...

Lets be honest, quite a lot of developers don't understand JavaScript and usually write it another like another language, which causes quite a lot of WTF code, poor performance and generally everyone abuses jQuery.

The number of developers that are going to use the techniques that you described are going to be in minority.

Edited 2013-10-04 19:04 UTC

Reply Parent Score: 3

RE[2]: Don't care much for it
by moondevil on Sat 5th Oct 2013 15:52 in reply to "RE: Don't care much for it"
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

Are you aware that what was ported was Unreal Engine 3, developed in 2006?!

Great! The browser in 2013 is able to display games developed with 2006's technology, given the right amount of CPU and GPU power available.

Now lets go back to my native games with 2013's technology.

Reply Parent Score: 3