Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 3rd Oct 2013 22:25 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones

Whether or not the Open fits your needs, one thing is clear: Mozilla needs more capable hardware to demonstrate Firefox OS' potential. The Open is good for someone whose alternative would be a basic flip phone, but the camera quality, connectivity, display and performance don't do full justice to the software.

A promising start, but clearly better hardware is needed. I'm really hoping Firefox OS gets a fair shot.

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RE[2]: I agree 100%
by Lennie on Fri 4th Oct 2013 07:47 UTC in reply to "RE: I agree 100%"
Lennie
Member since:
2007-09-22

They aren't really intended for most of the people in the US market.

As the article says:

'it's meant to deliver a smartphone experience to those who'd otherwise buy a basic cellphone -- not to become the "next iOS or Android."'

This is part of the reason FirefoxOS exists, bring smartphones to people that don't have a lot of money to spend on it.

So hardware will be less amazing if you pay less money, who would have expected that ?

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RE[3]: I agree 100%
by unclefester on Fri 4th Oct 2013 08:37 in reply to "RE[2]: I agree 100%"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13


'it's meant to deliver a smartphone experience to those who'd otherwise buy a basic cellphone -- not to become the "next iOS or Android.


The point is that vastly better hardware is available in the same price range. eg Huawei Y300 - dual core, 512MB RAM, 800x480 IPS screen etc sells for under $100.

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RE[3]: I agree 100%
by bassbeast on Fri 4th Oct 2013 15:48 in reply to "RE[2]: I agree 100%"
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

Uhhh...thanks I so rarely get to post this WHOOSH! The point of my post was that the GIVE AWAY phone on even the lowest tier prepaid plans have BETTER hardware than this phone!

Again this sounds like an excuse to dump the low end junk they can't sell on the regular market by saying "Oh its not FOR you, its for dumbphone users" while ignoring that the cheapest low end phones smoke this thing, no different than how Walmart took low end Via C3 single cores and some junk 40Gb HDDs and old DDR 1 sticks and said "This is a perfect Linux platform" when it reality Win98 would have ran on this hardware NOT a modern OS. BTW remember these phones I discribe are not only 2 years old but are GIVE AWAYS, totally unsubsidized, just buy a phone card and they will hand you this phone for nothing!

When even the lowest tier refurb junkers smoke your brand new phone in 2013? i'm sorry but its junk and no way in hell you can spin a junk phone into something else. Hell the ultra cheapo phones on Chinamart have more RAM than this!

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RE[4]: I agree 100%
by Lennie on Fri 4th Oct 2013 16:06 in reply to "RE[3]: I agree 100%"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

Sorry, I did misread your comment.

Anyway ZTE Open is based on last years phone I guess:

http://www.gsmarena.com/zte_kis_v788-4586.php

So yeah, maybe it is behind the times.

It might have been new when the collaboration between ZTE and Mozilla started, who knows.

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RE[4]: I agree 100%
by cdude on Fri 4th Oct 2013 20:12 in reply to "RE[3]: I agree 100%"
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21


The point of my post was that the GIVE AWAY phone on even the lowest tier prepaid plans have BETTER hardware than this phone!

And Lennie replied that its not intented for most people in the US. What he meaned, my interpretation, is that you can't compare US give-away + prepaid bundles and apply a its-only-$20 logic. In some countries you generally buy phone and prepaids (multiple carriers) separated and switch as needed. $1 prepaids can be used for months. Buy $1 get $2 discounts, generally free when calling within the same carrier, etc. Also there are huge differences in quality, availability, range between carriers. Some countries the maxium you can prepay is $5 cause there is no demand for more. Free wifi, dual-SIM, multiple phones/sims, etc.

Then what are the specs we compare with? Our requirements may rather different. Thiings like battery-life and build-quality (ie lifetime and robust) can become increasing important depending on conditions.

Edited 2013-10-04 20:30 UTC

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RE[3]: I agree 100%
by Wafflez on Fri 4th Oct 2013 18:19 in reply to "RE[2]: I agree 100%"
Wafflez Member since:
2011-06-26

Except basic cellphones last for an eternity on one charge compared to big screen smartphones.

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RE[4]: I agree 100%
by viton on Sun 6th Oct 2013 12:47 in reply to "RE[3]: I agree 100%"
viton Member since:
2005-08-09

Except basic cellphones last for an eternity on one charge compared to big screen smartphones.

Oh really? My old Samsung C90 could barely survive 2 days in idle mode. Siemens C45 - 3 days, while iPhone5 or Xperia Mini can work 3-4 days with music, internet, etc

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