Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 7th Oct 2013 20:54 UTC
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Samsung's Galaxy Gear television advertisement bears a resemblance to the original iPhone advertisement.

This made me smile, though:

There is just no shame - or original ideas - in this company at all.

Yeah! Except for display technology. Oh, and except for microprocessor design. And, of course, they are a driving force in memory chip design. Well, yeah, except for all those things from which virtually every computer product today benefits - Apple or otherwise - Samsung has absolutely no innovative ideas at all. What have the Romans done for us, indeed.

I don't care about Samsung any more than I care about other companies, but to shove the company's contributions to technology aside just because you lack the capacity to grasp the kind of more bare metal innovation they do just makes you look like an idiot.

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blind fools
by ezraz on Tue 8th Oct 2013 14:14 UTC
ezraz
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2012-06-20

for as smart as you people are, how is this big blind spot developed over companies that make knock offs?

deliberately making a product that physically looks and is packaged like your more popular competitor is LAME.

stealing? cheating? that's for the lawyers.

but it is LAME. Asian knockoffs are asian knockoffs, I don't care if samsung makes the best knockoff.

their current products don't look like apple's, but they defintely grew their market share with people who wanted something that looked like an iphone.

there are literally millions of colors, hundreds of degrees of rounding angles, 10's of physical areas to differentiate your phone from competitors.

samsung ordered their designers (in writing) to copy a successful, shipping product, made by a large customer of samsung. and they got their azz sued all over for it.

IF samsung really had better screen and chip hardware than apple, why isn't it in their own phones? BECAUSE APPLE DRIVES THE INDUSTRY. Apple's designs and (now huge) orders from suppliers push the whole thing forward.

The copying from Android to Apple is usually software hacks. Jailbroken iPhones can do that stuff too, Apple just stays conservative and tests new features for a slow rollout. It's a simple software update away for Apple to give all sort of Android-software features, if they want to.

Its the hardware design copying and the 'look and feel' copying that really angers Apple and their users consider tacky. Samsung basically sells an auto shaped like a BMW, with nearly the same logo and outward appearance, but it says BMVV and performs completely differently. It's false advertising and a knockoff and should not be applauded.

Edited 2013-10-08 14:21 UTC

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RE: blind fools
by Soulbender on Tue 8th Oct 2013 15:51 in reply to "blind fools"
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2005-08-18

It's a simple software update away for Apple to give all sort of Android-software features, if they want to.


Just because it's easy doesn't mean it's not stealing. Every company in every industry "steal" from the competition, it's just funny how many Apple fans stubbornly insist that Apple doesn't ever do it.

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RE[2]: blind fools
by ezraz on Tue 8th Oct 2013 16:02 in reply to "RE: blind fools"
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2012-06-20

"It's a simple software update away for Apple to give all sort of Android-software features, if they want to.


Just because it's easy doesn't mean it's not stealing. Every company in every industry "steal" from the competition, it's just funny how many Apple fans stubbornly insist that Apple doesn't ever do it.
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I personally have never said that. I know Apple is inspired by other products. I know they compete in the marketplace with certain features and all that. I know they probably "steal" in many senses of the word, on individual features or details within an overall design.

But I believe, as a user of many technology companies' products, that Apple represents one of the best designers working in the consumer space today. From any country. At almost any price point.

In other market segments, luxury makers try to give their products Apple polish. Look into features like engineering tolerances, flex ratings, drop tests, airflow management, battery design and features, weight distribution, manufacturing consistency, etc etc etc and you will find Apple above other computer companies. They just care more because their primary value in the open marketplace is that they are built better.

Since it's a computer we are talking about, it's software AND hardware that is built. Apple first jumped ahead in hardware in the 70's Apple 2 Woz era, then with the 80's MacOS - their software was admired while their hardware was overpriced and non-standard. That's pre-UNIX, pre-Intel Apple. Now with Unix, iOS, Intel inside, and their leadership in ARM designs, and Jon Ive, Apple has serious strength in all of the above.

Which is why they are now one of the richest companies in the world and just become the most popular brands in the world. And Android is still owned by an advertising company.

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