Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 7th Oct 2013 20:54 UTC
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Samsung's Galaxy Gear television advertisement bears a resemblance to the original iPhone advertisement.

This made me smile, though:

There is just no shame - or original ideas - in this company at all.

Yeah! Except for display technology. Oh, and except for microprocessor design. And, of course, they are a driving force in memory chip design. Well, yeah, except for all those things from which virtually every computer product today benefits - Apple or otherwise - Samsung has absolutely no innovative ideas at all. What have the Romans done for us, indeed.

I don't care about Samsung any more than I care about other companies, but to shove the company's contributions to technology aside just because you lack the capacity to grasp the kind of more bare metal innovation they do just makes you look like an idiot.

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RE[3]: blind fools
by theinonen on Tue 8th Oct 2013 18:04 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: blind fools"
theinonen
Member since:
2009-10-06

Google may be an advertising company but that is ok, as Apple is also mainly a marketing company.

They sell average products at premium prices to people that buy them mostly as status indicators. Apple having the best designed equipment is mostly an illusion and clever marketing.

Apple products are nowdays everywhere, so it will only be a matter of time before people start looking to other direction when they want to differentiate themself from the others. Everyone wants to feel they are somehow special and with the equipment they use they are sending that message to others. Switching to Intel they lost that "think different" factor and turned to just another IBM PC clone maker they ridiculed in the past. Just another Unix is also not enough to be different enough.

Apple is starting to feel the pressure, so they release software full of bugs before it is really completed or tested properly. It really is sad if people find lots of different bugs in couple minutes after software update and makes you wander if they even tested it at all.

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RE[4]: blind fools
by ezraz on Tue 8th Oct 2013 18:29 in reply to "RE[3]: blind fools"
ezraz Member since:
2012-06-20

Google may be an advertising company but that is ok, as Apple is also mainly a marketing company.

They sell average products at premium prices to people that buy them mostly as status indicators. Apple having the best designed equipment is mostly an illusion and clever marketing.

Apple products are nowdays everywhere, so it will only be a matter of time before people start looking to other direction when they want to differentiate themself from the others. Everyone wants to feel they are somehow special and with the equipment they use they are sending that message to others. Switching to Intel they lost that "think different" factor and turned to just another IBM PC clone maker they ridiculed in the past. Just another Unix is also not enough to be different enough.

Apple is starting to feel the pressure, so they release software full of bugs before it is really completed or tested properly. It really is sad if people find lots of different bugs in couple minutes after software update and makes you wander if they even tested it at all.


I disagree 100%. Here's why:

Nothing average about having the highest customer satisfaction rate year after year.

How can something be a status indicator and everywhere at the same time?

Most people I know with Apple's rely on them to make a living, often directly relying on them for more than socializing with friends or punching the clock with someone else's machine. SO many freelancers and mobile people use Apple because it fails the least. Go to a linux conference in the US and you see macbooks everywhere, friend.

How are they just another clone PC maker when they are the only one that runs OSX and iOS? and are so damn fashion forward too?

How are they just another unix if they make so much money off hardware and mobile?

Apple's feeling the pressure all right, all the way to the bank, and if they were hardcore capitalists instead of hippy capitalists they would buy most of their computer competitors right now. Seriously, Jobs owned most of Pixar and a chunk of Disney too. But oh their profit margin is just too good to bother diversifying too far.

Keyword highlight:::: Profit Margins ;-)

Apple will probably ride the iOS ecosystem out another 10 years with a stronger TV living room play, maybe a wearable more than the ipod mini already is wearable, and they are going into autos with the voice only interface. Android is loving being the free knockoff because this time it's ad-supported, not Microsoft monopoly supported.

Dude. If you disagree with my main points above let's just chalk this up to a difference in market perspective. i am i the heart of america and have been using various platforms since the 80's. i've bought, sold, programmed, supported, and recycled computers. so i'm just one man with an opinion and can't internet fight my day away.

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RE[5]: blind fools
by theinonen on Tue 8th Oct 2013 19:11 in reply to "RE[4]: blind fools"
theinonen Member since:
2009-10-06

I am writing this with my RISC OS box, so can not quote as no javascript etc.

My point is exactly that, nowdays you see Apple products everywhere and as they turn into commodity products they will inevitably lose their premium status in the process. If every other person and their dog has something it will be less desirable and too common for the others.

Apple has always been the good guys vs big bad Microsoft and that has also been beneficial for their success. People wanted choices and Apple gave them just that what they wanted. However tide is turning and Apple is with their recent actions appearing to be the biggest evil of them all. Nobody likes bullies and their succes will eventually turn against them. I can see similar fate waiting them as what happened to Nokia.

Problem with selling dreams is that eventually people will have to wake up into reality.

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RE[5]: blind fools
by Soulbender on Wed 9th Oct 2013 05:19 in reply to "RE[4]: blind fools"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Nothing average about having the highest customer satisfaction rate year after year.


Those numbers are meaningless:
http://www.osnews.com/permalink?574132

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