Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 9th Oct 2013 21:47 UTC
Windows

Paul Thurrot has a number of rumours up about Windows Phone 8.1. Two stand out to me.

Where GDR3 is widely expected to support 5- to 6-inch screens, 8.1 will supposedly support 7- to 10-inch screens as well. This obviously infringes on Windows RT/8.x tablets, so it's not clear what the thinking is there.

So, Windows RT will become even more pointless than it already is.

Aping the iPhone navigation model, Microsoft will apparently remove the Back button from the Windows Phone hardware specification with 8.1. The Back button just doesn't make sense, I was told: Users navigate away from an app by pressing the Start button and then open a new app, just like they do on iPhone. And the "back stack" is ill-understood by users: Most don't realize what they're doing when they repeatedly hit the Back button.

This I am not happy with. The back button is my main navigational input in both Android and Windows Phone, and I miss it dearly in iOS.

I'm just hoping on performance improvements, still my biggest issue with Windows Phone. I used my HTC 8X for a few hours today, and I was stunned by just how slow everything is compared to Android 4.3. Of course, application quality is another huge issue, but there's little Microsoft can do to convince developers that their Windows Phone applications are more than just side projects done between serious work on Android and iOS.

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Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

As someone who has used Windows Phone for longer and more extensively than anyone on this board - since launch day - I can confirm all the OP's complaints.

The multitasking one and lack of quality applications are the most pressing ones. Applications absolutely suck at saving state, and have crazy loading times - and that's even without seeing the dreadful "Resuming..."

Another major issue is the lack of progress. It almost seems as if Microsoft is incapable of updating the operating system, and it has improved little since WP8 was released - and even the move from WP7 to WP8 brought little in user benefits. Effectively, WP has stagnated from a user's point of view since the very first release. The additions we *have* seen have been meagre, at best.

Microsoft simply hasn't taken Windows Phone very seriously - that's the only explanation I can find. And don't take my word for it - even Nokia itself lamented the lack of progress in Windows Phone, and Microsoft's disinterest.

If you still deny all this, then you're either delusional, or you have an agenda.

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

So you confirm every point including having to go back to the start screen to view status icons? That obviously isn't the case, its up to the app to show the system tray and many of them do.

Or the background tasks not updating actual data in the app? Also provably false, a push notification runs a background trigger which has a time slice of CPU execution time with which to update a cache of data. Its up to the app and many apps including Twitter do this.

The state saving goes hand in hand with app quality and can vary, bit you two wildly exaggerate the problems. I have similar problems with Android widgets which randomly stop updating, but I don't blame Android. I blame the individual app.

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cdude Member since:
2008-09-21


Its up to the app


A user unlikely knows or like to know whos responsible for a problem. There is a problem. Point. And while that blame game goes on I see very little progress too. In the future that may indeed change with Nokia assimilated and a stronger role of WP within Microsoft. Right now priority seems to be with Windows on desktop, Server, Services like Azure and Bing, xbox, Devices like Surface and RT. WP comes last. That needs to change.

Edited 2013-10-10 09:28 UTC

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