Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 14th Oct 2013 13:31 UTC
Windows

The roll-out of the previous update - GDR2 - isn't even complete (thank you, carriers), and Microsoft is already pushing out the next one, GDR3. This update for Windows Phone 8 is the last one before 8.1 comes out next year, and brings with it a number of small improvements, such a close button in the multitasking view, a driving mode, support for newer hardware and 1080p displays, a rotation lock, and more.

There's no telling as of yet when Windows Phone 8 users will be getting the update, but non-branded phones will most likely get it first. On top of that, if you're a Windows Phone developer, you can get the update straight away.

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RE[2]: Why the delays?
by darknexus on Mon 14th Oct 2013 14:25 UTC in reply to "RE: Why the delays?"
darknexus
Member since:
2008-07-15

Because carriers.

Yet more proof, if we needed it, that carriers should never be permitted to fiddle with our phones' software. Whatever else Apple's gotten wrong, they did at least get that one part right. Microsoft should start closing their software to carrier modification. It would, at least, be one point for Windows Phone if it had guaranteed update roll-outs.

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RE[3]: Why the delays?
by Nelson on Mon 14th Oct 2013 14:43 in reply to "RE[2]: Why the delays?"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Carriers don't modify the software, they test the software on their networks. GDR2 was completed in June for example and some devices are just getting it now.

This is what the update program addresses (which is free btw, you can have an app studio registered device which costs nothing).

I have to wonder what kind of mind bending leverage Apple has which got such a concession from carriers.

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RE[4]: Why the delays?
by moondevil on Mon 14th Oct 2013 15:59 in reply to "RE[3]: Why the delays?"
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

Carriers don't modify the software, they test the software on their networks. GDR2 was completed in June for example and some devices are just getting it now.


Well, I remember back when the N95 was released, Vodafone D2 in Germany changed the firmware to disable wireless access. It was only possible to use UTMS with the Vodafone N95 version.

I have to wonder what kind of mind bending leverage Apple has which got such a concession from carriers.


They never thought iPhone would take off as it did, so they were careless with their deals with Apple. Nowadays it is too late to change it.

That is why they try by all means to avoid anyone else attempts to do the same.

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RE[4]: Why the delays?
by Soulbender on Mon 14th Oct 2013 16:27 in reply to "RE[3]: Why the delays?"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

I have to wonder what kind of mind bending leverage Apple has which got such a concession from carriers.


Jobs was still around back then so the RDF would have been in full effect.

Edited 2013-10-14 16:30 UTC

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RE[3]: Why the delays?
by BallmerKnowsBest on Mon 14th Oct 2013 19:27 in reply to "RE[2]: Why the delays?"
BallmerKnowsBest Member since:
2008-06-02

"Because carriers.

Yet more proof, if we needed it, that carriers should never be permitted to fiddle with our phones' software. Whatever else Apple's gotten wrong, they did at least get that one part right.
"

Please, Apple bends over and grabs their ankles for carriers far more enthusiastically than any of the other big smartphone makers - they just do it in slightly less noticeable ways. Like blocking tethering, unless it's explicitly enabled by the carrier (along with blocking all 3rd-party tethering apps to further appease the carriers):

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/how-i-share-m...

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RE[4]: Why the delays?
by darknexus on Mon 14th Oct 2013 20:06 in reply to "RE[3]: Why the delays?"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Apple are hardly the only ones to block tethering. Not a problem for me, as my phone's unlocked and not subsidized. I just used it this morning, so I know it absolutely does work.

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RE[4]: Why the delays?
by kaiwai on Tue 15th Oct 2013 11:58 in reply to "RE[3]: Why the delays?"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

And Samsung with their regional locks to the very same carriers who were bad mouth Apple not too long ago is any better? Please, if you want to blame someone for the tether locks then that is a carrier problem or more specifically an American problem based on over promising (unlimited wireless) which is unsustainable long term no matter how many mobile towers and micro-cells you throw up at the problem.

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