Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 16th Oct 2013 09:48 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

I think many who extol Android's flexibility fall into the tinkerer category, including some tech bloggers. They love all the ways they can customize their phones, not because they're seeking some perfect setup, but because they can swap in a new launcher every week. That's fun for them; but they've made the mistake of not understanding how their motivation differs from the rest of us.

A whopping 70%-80% of the world's smartphone owners have opted for Android over iOS. You could easily argue that 3-4 years ago, when Android was brand new, that it was for early adopters and tinkerers. To still trot out this ridiculous characterisation now that Android is on the vast majority of smartphones sold is borderline insanity.

Choice is not Android's problem. People who assume out of a misplaced arrogance that they represent the average consumer are the problem.

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RE[6]: It's cheap
by terrakotta on Wed 16th Oct 2013 20:04 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: It's cheap"
terrakotta
Member since:
2010-04-21

You call 63$/month reasonable?

How about 20€ (27$) a month preepaid (tax included), this on the mobile operator with the best coverage of the country. So you still have got some 36$ a month you can spend on your phone. Calculate a change once in two years that makes for a whopping 864$ to spend on a phone you can choose yourself. If the phone is still fullfilling your needs you can even opt to go for a new one when it suits you best, once in three-four years.

These coupled sales are usually not good for prices because they hide the real price of a product into the price of a product which is culturally accepted to be expensive. I am glad it used to be forbidden here. Some MVNO operators now try to offer coupled options, they are not really taking off, I wonder why... maybe the rip-off is too in your face?

Downside is of course that because operators need to get money out of their network rather than out of their forced phone sales, new network technologies tend to be adopted more slowly.

On-topic.
The choice spoken of in the article counts for both android and iOS. Too many apps doing the same thing. Windows Phone is trying another approch but we can all see how well that one is going. Apparently people like having all these apps installed that drain more battery while achieving exactly the same.

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RE[7]: It's cheap
by darknexus on Wed 16th Oct 2013 20:23 in reply to "RE[6]: It's cheap"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

How about 20€ (27$) a month preepaid (tax included), this on the mobile operator with the best coverage of the country. So you still have got some 36$ a month you can spend on your phone. Calculate a change once in two years that makes for a whopping 864$ to spend on a phone you can choose yourself.

Honest question, what do you get for those 20 euros? People do love to talk about how cheap cel phone plans are in other parts of the world and to some extent they are right, but I've also been told how amazing a 29 euro plan was that had about 200 minutes and 50 mb of data (which even our $30 plans top on some MVNOs). So what kind of plan are you referring to, and what is included with it? That's always important if you're going to bring up plan costs.

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RE[8]: It's cheap
by crazy-weasel on Wed 16th Oct 2013 21:10 in reply to "RE[7]: It's cheap"
crazy-weasel Member since:
2011-04-03

I have an 20€ contract which includes the following:
- 2GB data (after 2GB the bandwidth is throttled)
- 2000 sms
- 2000 free minutes for use with all other networks (including landlines; excluding "premium" services)
- additional 2000 free minutes to other customers of my operator (counting starts when the other 2000 minutes are used)

There are no restrictions on tethering (and I use it all the time on trains, about 20 hours per week), the network coverage is the best,..

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RE[8]: It's cheap
by sicofante on Thu 17th Oct 2013 00:44 in reply to "RE[7]: It's cheap"
sicofante Member since:
2009-07-08

I got a call from my landline carrier yesterday. They offer me a mobile plan with unlimited calls and 1GB of (HDSPA) data for €10 (plus 21% VAT, that's €12,10) a month. Of course that goes tied to the landline contract, but I need that for ADSL internet access anyway. A second mobile line for my wife will be 300 min / 500 MB for the same €10+taxes. I'm free to move to any other carrier any time (no two years contract whatsoever).

Another well known carrier will offer the same unlimited calls + 1 GB for €20, with no ties at all and no need to use their landline services. This is becoming a pretty common offer here lately and I'm sure it's only going to get cheaper and cheaper.

This is Spain what I'm talking about. Not exactly an inexpensive market when it comes to telecommunications, BTW.

Edited 2013-10-17 00:45 UTC

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RE[8]: It's cheap
by terrakotta on Thu 17th Oct 2013 19:49 in reply to "RE[7]: It's cheap"
terrakotta Member since:
2010-04-21

The 20€ plan is
2GB for one monh
2000 text messages
75 minutes. If these are not used you can take it to the next month.

These are on the carreier with the best coverage/technology (3/4G)

A similar plan for 15€ exists as well, but its network is not really up to par with the other one (3/2.5G).

Last I checked (few months ago) the offerings between countries aren't that different, it's just the prices and the network quality and/or technology that are different.

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