Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 17th Oct 2013 13:30 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

Jorma Ollila, ex-chairman of Nokia, admits Windows Phone was the wrong choice.

While Nokia brought in Elop and focused on Windows Phone, Ollila admits Microsoft's software hasn't helped the company. "We were not successful in using Microsoft's operating system to create competitive products, or an alternative to the two dominant companies in the field", he says, while noting it's "impossible to say what would have happened to the company if different decisions had been made in early 2011 or at some other time."

As if failing sales, a terrible financial situation, and a sale to Microsoft weren't enough evidence to conclude Windows Phone was the wrong choice for Nokia, we now have it straight from Nokia itself.

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Not true.
by sgtrock on Thu 17th Oct 2013 18:48 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Obvious"
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Available should not be mistaken for capable.

Plenty of sources cited in Wikipedia make it abundantly clear that the N9 running MeeGo was more than capable. Elop may very well have put Nokia back on top if he had just gotten behind the N9 and sold it aggressively. Heck, if he had JUST STAYED OUT OF THE WAY, it would have sold like hotcakes and saved their phone business.

Too bad he was far more interested in his $25 million payday for selling Nokia to Microsoft than he was in being Nokia's CEO.


The Nokia N9 was announced at Nokia's Connections event in Singapore, June 2011. The reception for the device has been very positive, citing the MeeGo v1.2 Harmattan UI, pseudo-buttonless design, polycarbonate unibody construction and its NFC capabilities. Still, many reviewers did not recommend to buy the N9 only because of Nokia's earlier decision to drop MeeGo for Windows Phone for future smartphones — often questioning this decision at the same time. Engadget's editor Vlad Savov said in June 2011 that "it's a terrific phone that's got me legitimately excited to use it, but its future is clouded by a parent that's investing its time and money into building up a whole other OS."[38] In a later review, Engadget writes: "Love at first sight — this is possibly the most beautiful phone ever made," and "MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan is such a breath of fresh air it will leave you gasping — that is, until you remember that you're dealing with a dead man walking."[2] In a review for Ars Technica, Ryan Paul writes: "The N9 is an impressively engineered device that is matched with a sophisticated touch-oriented interface and a powerful software stack with open source underpinnings."[39] The Verge (website) writes: "The Nokia N9 is, without doubt, one of the most fascinating phones of the last few years."[40]

The German Der Spiegel titles "this could have been Nokia's winner",[41] and the German magazine Stern describes it as one of the best devices ever made by Nokia.[42]

The Nokia N9 has not been directly released in most of the largest smartphone markets such as the U.S., Canada, UK, the Netherlands, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, and others. Nokia did not disclose the number of sales for the N9.[43] According to some unofficial estimates, it might have sold better than the two initially released Lumia devices in the last quarter of 2011, rising further doubts about Nokia's strategy to drop MeeGo in favour of Windows Phone.[44][45][46][47][48]


In November 2011, the Nokia N9 won 3 out of 4 applicable titles (including design, camera and cellphone of the year) at a gala held by Swedish magazine and webzine[49]

In January 2012, the Nokia N9 Swipe UI was nominated for an IxDA Interaction Award.[50]

In February 2012, the N9 reached number 1 in ranking "by rate" with a rate of 8.432 (out of 10) and votes of 74,940, and also number 5 by daily interest hits in GSMArena's ranking.[51]

In April 2012, the N9 was awarded a Design and Art Direction "Yellow Pencil", in the interactive product design category, beating among others the iPad 2 and the Nokia Lumia 800.[52]

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v RE: Not true.
by jared_wilkes on Thu 17th Oct 2013 19:30 in reply to "Not true."
RE[2]: Not true.
by shmerl on Thu 17th Oct 2013 20:26 in reply to "RE: Not true."
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Firstly, you refer to Harmattan, not Meego proper. Secondly, Harmattan was great, and if not for the fact that Nokia pulled the plug even before the release, it could mature fast. However it didn't, and remained with various longstanding bugs. I'm still using it nevertheless. I'll switch to Sailfish as soon as it will come out.

Edited 2013-10-17 20:26 UTC

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RE[2]: Not true.
by sgtrock on Fri 18th Oct 2013 02:06 in reply to "RE: Not true."
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"Plenty of sources cited in Wikipedia make it abundantly clear that the N9 running MeeGo was more than capable.

Oh, Wikipedia, you say? I stand corrected!

No. I used Meego and it was a piece of shit with horrible battery life and no apps.

Note that I said "Plenty of sources cited in Wikipedia...". The Wikipedia link itself had quotes pulled directly from the source.

But that's OK. Facts don't matter, only your opinion counts.

:eye roll:

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RE: Not true.
by Ford Prefect on Sun 20th Oct 2013 00:36 in reply to "Not true."
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The competition must haved laughed up their sleeves.

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