Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 21st Oct 2013 14:01 UTC
Windows

Jeff Atwood:

I had a brief Twitter conversation with Anand Shimpi of Anandtech about this, and he was as perplexed as I was. Nobody could explain the technical basis for this vast difference in idle power management on the same hardware. None of the PC vendors he spoke to could justify it, or produce a Windows box that managed similar battery life to OS X. And that battery life gap is worse today - even when using Microsoft's own hardware, designed in Microsoft's labs, running Microsoft's latest operating system released this week. Microsoft can no longer hand wave this vast difference away based on vague references to "poorly optimized third party drivers".

The new Surface Pro 2 gets 6.6 hours of web browsing battery life. The MacBook Air 11", which has more or less the same hardware and battery, gets more than 11 hours.

I have a Surface RT - the first generation - and as such, I know why. Windows 8 might have Metro running on top of it hiding a lot of it, but Windows 8.x carries just as much baggage, cruft, and outdated shit with it as previous versions of Windows have. Windows 8/8.1 - and Metro in particular - simply suck. Slow, clunky, jarring, cumbersome, battery-sucking, restricted, and limited, with a crappy selection of rush-job, rarely updated applications. You know how resizing windows on Windows 7 or OS X is all nice and fluid? Why, then, is it a slow and jittery operation that brings Windows 8 Metro to its knees?

It's simple: just like battery life, it's a symptom of Microsoft's Windows team not having the balls to truly go for a clean break, as the Windows Phone team have done. And lo and behold, Windows Phone - even WP8, which runs on the same NT kernel - has none of the slowness and crappiness issues that continue to plague Windows 8 Metro (although WP has its own set of issues unrelated to these).

If you want a smooth, modern laptop today - get a MacBook. If you want a smooth and modern tablet, get the Nexus 7 or an iPad. Microsoft still has nothing to show for itself in these areas.

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RE: You know what?
by Wafflez on Mon 21st Oct 2013 16:04 UTC in reply to "You know what?"
Wafflez
Member since:
2011-06-26

Buy a MacBook, install Windows.

Atleast that's on my TO DO list just to confuse hipsters in coffee shops.

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RE[2]: You know what?
by ebasconp on Mon 21st Oct 2013 18:25 in reply to "RE: You know what?"
ebasconp Member since:
2006-05-09

Better if you buy a MacBook, buy VMware Fusion or Parallels, and install Windows on it for your gaming stuff.

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RE[3]: You know what?
by moondevil on Mon 21st Oct 2013 19:47 in reply to "RE[2]: You know what?"
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

I want Windows to talk directly to my graphics card.

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RE[2]: You know what?
by shotsman on Tue 22nd Oct 2013 07:11 in reply to "RE: You know what?"
shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

Then skin windows so it looks like OSX to confuse the poor blighters even more.

Then sigh as their systems carry on working while yours dies as the battery runs out.

Winners and losers everywhere then?

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RE[2]: You know what?
by ezraz on Wed 23rd Oct 2013 17:11 in reply to "RE: You know what?"
ezraz Member since:
2012-06-20

this coffeeshop hipster fanboi has had windows on his mac for a long time. i develop cross-platform apps and have enjoyed living mac and firing up windows when needed for many many years.

running other OS's well has been an advantage of apple's hardware for some time.

btw - i look around the coffeeshop computer users, and my observation is that most are just facebooking and web surfing, regardless of platform. i've always felt like i was the minority actually setting up and developing when mobile.

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