Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 23rd Oct 2013 22:46 UTC
Windows

Early this year, I decided to take a risk.

As a geek, I like to reward those in the industry that try to be bold. That try to be different. That try to leave the beaten path. That look at the norm in the market, and decide to ignore it. Despite all its flaws, Microsoft did just that with its Metro user interface, incarnations of which are used on both Windows Phone and Windows 8.

I was a Windows Phone user since day one. I bought an HTC HD7 somewhere around release day, and imported it into The Netherlands, a year before the platform became available in The Netherlands. I wanted to reward Microsoft's mobile team for trying to be different, for being original, for not copying iOS and Android and instead coming up with something fresh and unique. Despite all the limitations and early adopter issues, I loved it.

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I disagree about the Surface RT
by ronaldst on Thu 24th Oct 2013 01:02 UTC
ronaldst
Member since:
2005-06-29

Hardware wise, it's good. The OS that runs on it is another story.

8.0 is buggy. Windows 8.1 is even buggier. Even MetroIE crashes now. Which is pretty sad.

Apps which were very basic and bland now have had functionality removed. What happened to the Photo app? Where is the integration? It's still a shitty version of Windows Photo Gallery. Why is SkyDrive inferior to the web version? I could go on. Some apps took small steps and some went back a few steps. The only good app to come out great is the email app. And the new Control Panel. The Music app is 50% less shitty now. For some reason it still tries to play stuff from Xbox Music. I can't play Metallica on my tablet which the music is on my PC through HomeGroup. I have to go fetch manually.

And alas the real disappointment: still no Notification Centre. I use it everyday on Jelly Bean. Even ChromeOS has one. They took the same Balloon Popup from the Windows Taskbar and built upon it. Why can't Microsoft do that same? What is going on over there in Redmond? How can MS fuck up a Music app?

There's only 1 camp to blame: Microsoft.

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ronaldst Member since:
2005-06-29

The casualty in all this is Microsoft's own crown jewel: Windows.

With Windows 8, users finally have a curated store to house "appliance"/plug-and-play/no fuss apps that appeals to the mainstream who just want it to work. This is a very important segment. Unfortunately, there are no apps worth talking about. It would have been fun for it to be a place to buy/play the same games that are on the XBox One. It would have given Lord Gaben some real competition.

The whole situation is baffling. And I am very disappointed.

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ddc_ Member since:
2006-12-05

The casualty in all this is Microsoft's own crown jewel: Windows.

Microsoft's crown jewel is Office. And they still have an option of downplaying the whole desktop Metro thing in future Windows releases. Also Windows 7 is still there on shelves... So, really, that's not all that dramatic at all.

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ddc_ Member since:
2006-12-05

The only good app to come out great is the email app.

Indeed, it became much better. Still several things remain beyond my understanding. If I have several unread messages in a thread, it automatically selects the newest, as if Microsoft people expect users to read mail in reverse order or skip the conversation entirely. It still doesn't provide an option of editing mail in plain text, as well as it doesn't detect URLs in plain text mail. It top-posts. These really should have been configurable, and IIRC people requested these options.

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DanDavies Member since:
2013-02-23

I agree, the hardware is fine it's the ModernUI apps that let Surface / Win 8.1 down.

If Modern UI is the future, then why do some many apps have less functionality than their browser based counter-parts?

I've started tracking the issues at a blog:
http://refiningwindows8.blogspot.com/

Please feel free to submit anything you've noticed. The only way this situation will change is by getting users to complain and leave (constructive bad reviews) in the Windows store.

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MadRat Member since:
2006-02-17

My main frustration with Metro is the swipes gestures to change apps and share the metro view with multiple apps. The view sucks and is un-Windows-like. I want my mini/maximize, full screen, and close options. The real estate for it is there, it's just NOT there.

I don't mind the option of a hidden systray and taskbar of metro, but when my finger touches the bottom of the screen I expect to see it. The clock needs to stay and I miss the pop up box.

I still don't understand how Windows doesn't have something akin to Yz Toolbar opposite the taskbar.

Edited 2013-10-25 11:11 UTC

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