Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 24th Oct 2013 16:02 UTC, submitted by bowkota
Google

Google back in 2005:

There will be no banner ads on the Google homepage or web search results pages.

Google today:

The company confirmed to the Guardian that it is testing a system with about 30 advertisers in the US in which it shows banner ads for companies including SouthWest Airlines on pages which include them in web search results.

And people wonder why I have zero trust in companies.

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Comment by Tractor
by Tractor on Thu 24th Oct 2013 16:18 UTC
Tractor
Member since:
2006-08-18

I used to think that Google was "not that bad", on average, and clearly less worse than other companies such as Facebook.

But I have to say that, from the last few months, news from Google are going for the worse. I guess someone will tell that it's "inevitable", but frankly I don't care. I liked Google as it was a few years ago. I'm not sure I can't keep this confidence in them anymore.

Now for the more difficult part : find alternatives (not just for search, but for the myriad of services which are now in my everyday life).

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RE: Comment by Tractor
by ddc_ on Thu 24th Oct 2013 16:36 in reply to "Comment by Tractor"
ddc_ Member since:
2006-12-05

FWIW does anyone know free mail service with IMAP access and more or less capable filtering? (Eg. capable enough to filter on headers.)

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RE[2]: Comment by Tractor
by darknexus on Thu 24th Oct 2013 17:08 in reply to "RE: Comment by Tractor"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

FWIW does anyone know free mail service with IMAP access and more or less capable filtering? (Eg. capable enough to filter on headers.)

There in lies the problem: people expect this kind of thing for free. It takes skilled people to run those servers, to administer the system, and to keep it secure. People don't work for free, so they have to be paid. If you're unwilling to pay at least a bit of a fee for a service, the service's management need to find other sources of income or else shut it down.
I'm sick of everyone wanting stuff for free. Google is the end result of said desire, and you're paying a price for your "free" services; a price that is, in my opinion, far worse than a bit of cash.

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RE[2]: Comment by Tractor
by WereCatf on Thu 24th Oct 2013 17:09 in reply to "RE: Comment by Tractor"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

free mail service


If you want free mail service you'll end up paying for it in some other way, like e.g. by the service - provider tracking you and selling the data for marketing purposes. As such why move away from GMail to something else? You'll just be trading the provider to another one, not actually improving your privacy conditions.

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RE[2]: Comment by Tractor
by lucas_maximus on Thu 24th Oct 2013 17:15 in reply to "RE: Comment by Tractor"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Why not pay for your own mailbox? It is a pittance.

Edited 2013-10-24 17:15 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by Tractor
by aligatro on Thu 24th Oct 2013 17:36 in reply to "RE: Comment by Tractor"
aligatro Member since:
2010-01-28

FWIW does anyone know free mail service with IMAP access and more or less capable filtering? (Eg. capable enough to filter on headers.)


Does your ISP offer mailbox as part of your internet package?

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RE[2]: Comment by Tractor
by lemur2 on Fri 25th Oct 2013 07:35 in reply to "RE: Comment by Tractor"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

FWIW does anyone know free mail service with IMAP access and more or less capable filtering? (Eg. capable enough to filter on headers.)


I'm not sure about the filtering, but you might look a Zoho Mail LITE.

https://www.zoho.com/mail/zohomail-pricing.html

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RE[2]: Comment by Tractor
by Temcat on Sat 26th Oct 2013 07:21 in reply to "RE: Comment by Tractor"
Temcat Member since:
2005-10-18

Mail.ru?

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RE[2]: Comment by Tractor
by privateoslover on Sun 27th Oct 2013 17:32 in reply to "RE: Comment by Tractor"
privateoslover Member since:
2013-10-27

Being an avid OSnews reader for 15 years ever since Euginia Loli-Queru started it, I have watched in shock at the decline of the internet into a corporatised land grab, and with it the stealth of the user's freedom, characterized vididly in the original TRON film. As such I have started steps to redress the issue. Please check my upcoming website (work in progress, hopefully up and running in 12/2013).

https://lspeurodomains.co.uk

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RE: Comment by Tractor
by shmerl on Thu 24th Oct 2013 18:40 in reply to "Comment by Tractor"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

I think Google turned to the worse when Sergey Brin stopped defining the direction (once he started working on "futuristic" technologies). "Don't be evil" was primarily his push.

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RE[2]: Comment by Tractor
by jared_wilkes on Thu 24th Oct 2013 21:25 in reply to "RE: Comment by Tractor"
jared_wilkes Member since:
2011-04-25

Brin had never been defining the direction of the company. Page has always been the alpha of the pair.

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RE: Comment by Tractor
by bassbeast on Fri 25th Oct 2013 12:28 in reply to "Comment by Tractor"
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

This is why after their change in their privacy policy, along with trying to ram G+ down my throat and tie everything from my phone to my Youtube account I have stopped using Google, they have just become too nasty.

I made a dummy account for my Android phone that is ONLY used for my phone,never used for anything else,switched to Yahoo for my email and Bing for my searches. At least this way no one company has too much data and I can control who has what,and to keep my mobile searches away from Google I use a third party browser on my phone.

But can we all PLEASE agree that "Not be evil" or "do no evil" is just a damned marketing ploy, no different than "where do you want to go today?" or "think different" now? Because the past couple of years Google has been getting seriously nasty, both with trying to force you to tie everything into their services and with turning more and more of their services and Android proprietary, yet all we hear from the apologists is that stupid meme and how bad the other guy is. Well the lesser of two evils is STILL evil and I'd say Google isn't even the lesser anymore, from them jamming more and more ads to trying their hand at the old MSFT EEE strategy by making things tied to Chrome I'd say they are becoming every bit as nasty as MSFT under Gates.

I don't know, maybe its a side effect of becoming number one, once you get to the top greed and fear turns a company nasty, but it sure ain't the same Google of 5 years ago. Google used to be a cool engineering company that was always throwing out new ideas and trying new things, now they seem to be stuck in "maximize profits" mode, no different than any other Wall Street corp.

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