Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 25th Oct 2013 22:36 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

Systena began shipping what appears to be the first new mobile device to run the Linux-based Tizen OS. Aimed at developers in Japan, the Systena tablet runs Tizen 2.1 on a quad-core, 1.4GHz Cortex-A9 system-on-chip, features a 10.1-inch (1920 x 1200) display, and offers 2GB of RAM and 32GB of storage.

Is anyone here using Tizen? Is there even something you can run it on besides this tablet?

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Tizen is a hedge
by mbpark on Sun 27th Oct 2013 20:35 UTC
mbpark
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2005-11-17

Tizen is in case Samsung ends up upsetting Google by co-opting Android or the devices to the point where they upset the business relationship. Considering that Samsung has their hands in everything, especially displays and RAM (http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns/News/Pages/US-Made-MotoXs-Cost-Com...) for Apple, Motorola, and Nokia, this is an insurance strategy.

I don't see this happening anytime soon, however.

Samsung already has an Intel-based tablet running Android. They are big enough to be able to handle diversifying, esp. if Intel is able to score a few more wins for phones and tablets. I do not see them having to use this OS. After all, didn't they just kill Bada?

If I was a device manufacturer looking to put out cheap devices, why would I bother with an unproven OS when I can get any number of OEM designs on the cheap from China that run Android or a similar OS? That cuts down my BOM and development costs significantly. Retailers will stock Android more than something they do not know.

The one player I see succeeding in this space, if they don't screw it up, is Microsoft. They will own the Asha phones and the S40 OS. I want to see what they will do with them or if they will let them rot like so many of their other acquisitions.

It's an excellent hobby/backup plan OS. However, there's too large of an ecosystem out there with Android to ignore. Short of Google doing something to really upset a lot of companies, there's no chance of seeing a Tizen device in Best Buy anytime soon.

That's not to say they can't get a niche market.

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RE: Tizen is a hedge
by Moochman on Mon 28th Oct 2013 00:33 in reply to "Tizen is a hedge"
Moochman Member since:
2005-07-06

The one player I see succeeding in this space, if they don't screw it up, is Microsoft. They will own the Asha phones and the S40 OS. I want to see what they will do with them or if they will let them rot like so many of their other acquisitions.


You can't seriously believe that Microsoft is going to keep iterating on the current *Java-based* Asha platform after the takeover. IMHO there's no chance in hell that MS is going to support development tools based on Java. There's just too much history and bad blood associated with Java at MS, not to mention the never-ending Not Invented Here syndrome from which Microsoft suffers. If you want proof of this, just look at what happened when MS bought Danger (makers of the Sidekick), whose platform was incidentally also based on Java. MS started from scratch to create a whole new platform, the now-barely-remembered Kin, which was ultimately too underpowered and too late to make an impact and simultaneously managed to delay the development of Windows Phone 7 while they were at it.

To be honest, MS would be smartest to kill Asha. Otherwise they are wont to pull another Kin and try to develop a new platform no one wants from scratch *again*, which is really just a waste of everyone's time and talent. The effort would be much better invested in making sure that Windows Phone runs well on the next generation of cheap phone hardware (which from what I've read it actually already does)...

Edited 2013-10-28 00:37 UTC

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RE[2]: Tizen is a hedge
by unclefester on Mon 28th Oct 2013 09:31 in reply to "RE: Tizen is a hedge"
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2007-01-13

The only useful feature of Asha phones is great battery life. Within a year or two they will be abandoned as basic WP8 phones become sub $100 items.

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RE[2]: Tizen is a hedge
by Nelson on Mon 28th Oct 2013 11:12 in reply to "RE: Tizen is a hedge"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Asha has a HTML (gross I know) platform in addition to JME. But I agree mostly, Microsoft will divest from Asha after a short while. If they're smart they'll license Exchange/Office to whoever their new owner is.

Using Asha as a stepping stone to the Microsoft stack is smart, but I doubt Microsoft can stomach investing in the platform. They're so pigheaded they'll waste time squeezing Windows into that price point and get there too late.

Also it'll be interesting to see Asha sales in Q3 and Q4, if this breaks out into its own as a successful platform it'll be harder to kill.

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RE[2]: Tizen is a hedge
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Tue 29th Oct 2013 14:17 in reply to "RE: Tizen is a hedge"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

To be fair, it was windows phone 7 that delayed kin, not the other way around. Kin was ultimately based on Windows Mobile 6 because they got sick of waiting. But, yeah the larger point stands MS took a pioneer in the mobile space and killed it due to their insistence that everything be MS. It really makes no sense. The brains of Danger left before (Andy Rubin aka founder of Android), or right after ( Matias Duarte Head of UI at Android).

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