Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 29th Oct 2013 15:04 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

Nokia has just announced its Q3 2013 financial results, revealing an operating profit of EUR118 million ($162 million) from EUR 5.66 billion ($7.8 billion) revenue. That's up massively year over year, but nonetheless represents another quarter of middling results. The report is the first since Microsoft agreed to purchase Nokia's phone business, and that division - Devices and Services - performed as expected, posting a small loss of EUR 86 million ($118 million).

So, Microsoft is buying the part of Nokia that is losing money, while the parts that make money remain in Finland. Seems like a good deal for Nokia-proper. In the meantime, Microsoft will be saddled with a devices division that is still losing money, and whose increase in sales consists largely of low-end, low-margin devices (like the 520). Interesting - especially since Windows Phone was supposed to prevent Nokia participating in a race to the bottom. I'm sure Microsoft's super-successful Surface division welcomes Nokia's devices division.

The cold truth: even more than 2.5 years after announcing the switch to Windows Phone, Nokia's Lumia range still cannot make up for drop in sales of Symbian devices and feature phones. This is roughly the same timeframe in which Samsung rose to the top. With Android.

Read into that what you will.

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RE[7]: Comment by Nelson
by JAlexoid on Wed 30th Oct 2013 00:41 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by Nelson"
JAlexoid
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And NSN is now solely a mobile broadband solution, but that isn't "dead".

Which is totally irrelevant in the context of this long debate - Nokia + Windows Phone + Elop. NSN was doing great and had no relation to Nokia's handset business, except the shared canteen at Karaportti campus.

Did Skype die? Did Yammer die?

And what does your emotional and wildly inaccurate comparisons have to do with it?
Nokia is not dead. But Nokia the mobile phone is, unlike Nokia the rubber boot.

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RE[8]: Comment by Nelson
by Nelson on Wed 30th Oct 2013 00:56 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by Nelson"
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2005-11-29


Which is totally irrelevant in the context of this long debate - Nokia + Windows Phone + Elop. NSN was doing great and had no relation to Nokia's handset business, except the shared canteen at Karaportti campus.


The point is that a divestment doesn't mean you're dead. It hasn't in the past when Nokia has shed portions of NSN.

And what does your emotional and wildly inaccurate comparisons have to do with it?


That acquired businesses and the hosts they leave behind don't die. Nokia isn't dead and D&S within Microsoft isn't dead.

Apart? Yes. Dead? Only on OSNews.


Nokia is not dead.


Glad we can agree.

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