Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 11th Nov 2013 22:49 UTC
Games

Sony, June this year:

"PlayStation 4 won't impose any new restrictions on used games. This is a good thing," said Tretton, to huge applause from the audience in attendance. "When a gamer buys a PS4 disc, they have the rights to that copy of the game."

Sony's Software Usage Terms, updated today:

6.3. You must not lease, rent, sublicense, publish, modify, adapt, or translate any portion of the Software.

7.1. You must not resell either Disc-based Software or Software Downloads, unless expressly authorised by us and, if the publisher is another company, additionally by the publisher.

Liars. Similar language has been found on the boxes of previous PlayStation models, but that's hardly a comfort.

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RE[2]: Comment by chainq
by aliquis on Tue 12th Nov 2013 06:34 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by chainq"
aliquis
Member since:
2005-07-23

"I'm pretty sure such EULA is directly against the law in most EU countries.


I can vouch for at least Finland in that that such a rule is totally non-enforceable, Sony cannot forbid re-sale of items like that. The law rather clearly says that if it is sold like a shelf product it is a shelf product and all such items can be sold at the buyers' discretion, with or without permission from the manufacturer or place of purchase.
"What if the shelf product just hold a key which can only be used once and let you download a game?

I assume one can't enforce resell rights on Steam games? What about Steam games bought in a store?

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RE[3]: Comment by chainq
by computrius on Tue 12th Nov 2013 22:35 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by chainq"
computrius Member since:
2006-03-26

In that case you are selling a card with a key on it, not the actual game. So, whether or not you get a game after buying just a key depends on whether or not the seller already redeemed the key.

From Steam's point of view, they are not involved with that sale and the key is redeemed. They don't need to care how you got it or who redeemed it.

Edited 2013-11-12 22:37 UTC

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