Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 11th Nov 2013 22:49 UTC

Sony, June this year:

"PlayStation 4 won't impose any new restrictions on used games. This is a good thing," said Tretton, to huge applause from the audience in attendance. "When a gamer buys a PS4 disc, they have the rights to that copy of the game."

Sony's Software Usage Terms, updated today:

6.3. You must not lease, rent, sublicense, publish, modify, adapt, or translate any portion of the Software.

7.1. You must not resell either Disc-based Software or Software Downloads, unless expressly authorised by us and, if the publisher is another company, additionally by the publisher.

Liars. Similar language has been found on the boxes of previous PlayStation models, but that's hardly a comfort.

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RE[4]: Steam machines
by woegjiub on Tue 12th Nov 2013 10:59 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Steam machines"
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Just pointing out that there's no point in reselling steam games, because they cost approximately the difference between shelf price and resell value, or less.

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RE[5]: Steam machines
by tylerdurden on Tue 12th Nov 2013 17:29 in reply to "RE[4]: Steam machines"
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And what I'm trying to point out is that for those, interested of selling some of the games they play no more in order to recoup some of the original investment, the fact that Steam has sales is completely irrelevant.

Never mind that having a "sale" once a year is not something exclusive to Steam in the least. It's basically the norm in the retail sector really.

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RE[6]: Steam machines
by Kivada on Wed 13th Nov 2013 01:34 in reply to "RE[5]: Steam machines"
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Can you sell your cable subscription? Your phone service? Your internet service?


Well thats what Steam games are, one time payment lifetime subscriptions sold over the internet as direct download items that never touch a store shelf. Buy your Steam game via Amazon? Amazon doesn't ship you a disc, they just give you a steam key.

Traditional console disc or cartridge based games aren't tied to an account, they aren't a subscription. They are something you can swap with your friends and resell.

If the wording was only for games that are for games that are only available via the PSN network shop as direct download the same as Steam then nobody would have a problem.

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