Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 14th Nov 2013 15:19 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

Jolla's first smartphone, running their new SailfishOS, will be released in Finland on 27 November. It will feature Nokia HERE maps, and the Yandex Android application store.

Currently featuring over 85,000 apps in 17 categories, Yandex.Store offers the best and most popular apps - from social networking and communication apps like Facebook, Twitter, Foursquare, Skype, Viber and WeChat to games like Angry Birds. Yandex.Store will provide in-app purchase opportunities and is available on smartphones and tablets in 37 languages.

International, non-Finnish people who preordered (like myself) will be notified via email shortly. I can't wait. I'm getting the 'other half' in red and white (I get two of them as part of my preorder package) - or perhaps, hot candy pink? Any suggestions from you guys and girls?

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RE: Comment by ddc_
by drcouzelis on Thu 14th Nov 2013 18:37 UTC in reply to "Comment by ddc_"
drcouzelis
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2010-01-11

What hopes did you have?

Why are they ruined?

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RE[2]: Comment by ddc_
by moondevil on Fri 15th Nov 2013 12:27 in reply to "RE: Comment by ddc_"
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2005-07-08

Because developers will just target Android instead of Jolla specific APIs.

This has happen every time a vendor has offered such kind of compatibility layer.

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RE[3]: Comment by ddc_
by Nelson on Fri 15th Nov 2013 14:37 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by ddc_"
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2005-11-29

Yup. Jolla just OS/2'd their platform. Just like BBRY did with BB10.

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RE[3]: Comment by ddc_
by drcouzelis on Fri 15th Nov 2013 14:39 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by ddc_"
drcouzelis Member since:
2010-01-11

That's a good point. I have two reasons to be hopeful:

The native programming API is Qt with C++, which is already popular with developers. In a sense, they don't have to learn something new.

There's a lot of developer excitement over the successor to the N900 and N9 from people who work on open source software, more than exists for, say, Blackberry OS or Windows Phone.

...I have absolutely no citation for any information in this comment. It's probably just hoping / wishful thinking. ;)

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RE[3]: Comment by ddc_
by shmerl on Fri 15th Nov 2013 17:43 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by ddc_"
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2010-06-08

No necessarily, since it will have a performance penalty. No point to use heavy Android runtime if there is Qt and C++ available.

Edited 2013-11-15 17:43 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by ddc_
by ddc_ on Sat 16th Nov 2013 00:23 in reply to "RE: Comment by ddc_"
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2006-12-05

What hopes did you have?

Why are they ruined?

This decision is IMO wrong in variaty of ways: providing ready to use access to apps for Android (which heavily outnumber Jolla native apps) would slow down (and most likely kill) attempts at creating high quality native apps:
1. it's hard to compete with something already much wider adopted and recognized.
2. New users would likely retreat to the apps they already know, those being Android apps.
3. As developer you have a choice to target either Jolla alone or Android and Jolla. What would you choose?

Now, even if they find Android compatibility vital, relying it on third party is a bad idea, even if they didn't deal with a company most notable for shipping poor Google alternatives and yet worse homegrown crap. (Yandex browser, anyone?) If they indeed wanted Android compatibility, they should have done their own shop, because it allowed them to:
1. make a way to sort in the same list native apps before Android counterparts - to help native app developers;
2. enable QA - they would be blamed for comptibility problems in apps, so they should have control over contents of the store;
3. reserved for future needs - really, who knows, what problems are they to face in the future.

Anyway, they'll already have to perform QA on compatibility level, so hiding its results in house and outsourcing the app store part to Yandex is very wrong.

I'm quite confident they are paid by Yandex though - Yandex is trying to expand outside Russia with no particular success, so they may see Jolla as their ticket to some European users. And they'll get some more store sales. So it may be a good mean for Jolla to get their feet wet while they are planning their assault on the market, but I'm not sure it will pay them off nicely.

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