Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 21st Nov 2013 18:41 UTC, submitted by MOS6510
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The big story in The New York Times on November 20, 1985, concerned Hurricane Kate's advance as it smashed into northern Cuba and the Florida Keys before barreling north to threaten the Gulf Coast. But another big story -- for the technology world -- was about to unfold thousands of miles away in Las Vegas, where the Comdex trade show was getting under way.

Apple had grabbed headlines a year earlier with the introduction of its graphical Macintosh. Now, after two years of delays, Microsoft was finally ready to debut the much-promised Microsoft Windows.

It became the blueprint for many of Microsoft's new product launches. Early versions suck, but get progressively better over the years.

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RE[7]: Comment by MOS6510
by lucas_maximus on Fri 22nd Nov 2013 10:13 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by MOS6510"
lucas_maximus
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2009-08-18

"WORKS FOR ME, YOU MUST BE STUPID!" attitude is pathetic.

The fact of the matter is that there has been things that plague desktop Linux and they persist because of this very attitude.

Pretending that issues don't exist because they don't occur for you is dishonest and selfish.

Edited 2013-11-22 10:18 UTC

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RE[8]: Comment by MOS6510
by abraxas on Fri 22nd Nov 2013 19:21 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by MOS6510"
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2005-07-07

"WORKS FOR ME, YOU MUST BE STUPID!" attitude is pathetic

The fact of the matter is that there has been things that plague desktop Linux and they persist because of this very attitude.

Pretending that issues don't exist because they don't occur for you is dishonest and selfish.


Does this go for Windows as well? Windows has plenty of its own issues and shortcomings. It depends on what you want to do. Personally I work with Windows all day but when I come home I like my Linux laptop. Windows UI always seems so laggy and cumbersome to me even on systems much newer than my laptop.

It's annoying as hell for me to find relevant things in Windows logs. Powershell makes it better somewhat but Powershell itself is so damn verbose I don't use it nearly as much as I use the shell in Linux. Powershell also is not really the same thing as bash. It is mostly meant for administrative tasks whereas I can use bash for pretty much everything, like everyday desktop tasks which makes me much more efficient.

The other big thing for me is that I'm not big on buying a lot of software and I like to do a lot of different things. Now Windows also has a good amount of FOSS software but not nearly as much as Linux and a lot of the times the Linux version of FOSS software is better.

My Linux laptop comes in handy in business network environments as well when it comes to pentesting and troubleshooting networks. There are just so many more tools and again the cross platform ones just seem to work so much better on Linux.

Lastly the most annoying thing of all that Linux doesn't have to deal with is the plethora of versions and license keys that you have to deal with Microsoft. Just for example...you cannot get bitlocker on Windows 7 without having a VLK version or Ultimate. Some clients get brand new machines with Windows 7 Pro and then later decide they want encryption. Well you can't get bitlocker on Pro without a VLK version so you either have to upgrade to Ultimate or wipe and reload a VLK version. This is especially annoying when you already have VLK licensing but the only way to use the key is to wipe the OS. It's just stupid.

YMMV

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RE[9]: Comment by MOS6510
by lucas_maximus on Fri 22nd Nov 2013 21:53 in reply to "RE[8]: Comment by MOS6510"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

You mis-understood the point I was making.

I find that a lot of people in the Desktop Linux community do not what to listen to criticism even if it is valid.

I don't have a lot of free time these days at work or in my social life. I don't want to spend fixing things that shouldn't be broke in the first place.

This applies for ASP.NET development (my speciality) and other web stacks that I work with. I have quite a lot of frustrations because of things that are either broke or not implemented in these web stacks.

When it comes to an Operating system (it isn't even bespoke code). I just expect certain things to work, if they don't work then I won't use it unless I have to ... one of the reasons why I don't use OpenBSD anymore even though I like the OS and its philosophy ... it just isn't practical.

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