Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 21st Nov 2013 18:48 UTC, submitted by Rohan Pearce
OSNews, Generic OSes

MenuetOS sits in an interesting nexus between astonishing technical achievement and computerised work of art. The super-speedy, pre-emptive multitasking operating system is still, despite adding more driver support, more included applications, an improved GUI and digital TV support over the years, capable of fitting on a floppy disk (assuming you can find one).

MenuetOS is a technical marvel. Not only is it written entirely in assembly, it also shoves a fully capable multitasking operating system on a single floppy disk.

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RE[3]: Comment by MOS6510
by gass on Fri 22nd Nov 2013 10:16 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510"
gass
Member since:
2006-11-29

That is true.
Machines are today more than capable of processing anything.
But ... instead of having OSes faster, we have OSes that have no evolution despite graphics.

Windows is one example. xp->vista, windows7->8 .
Linux is another, with the example of gnome shell, for instance, having a *lot* written in scripting, uncompiled, languages.
There were times where the next version of something in the linux world was faster then the previous with more features. But now the competition is big for beautiful and *new* applications. Instead of just being good applications.

Bigger OSes also bring more capabilities. Menuet supports only x86. To support ARM, the size would double. How many archs does linux support? And graphic cards. and other hardware.
Of course, maybe this can all be optimized.

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RE[4]: Comment by MOS6510
by MOS6510 on Fri 22nd Nov 2013 10:29 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by MOS6510"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

I used to wonder what-if there was a Linux desktop computer. You know, like an Amiga or ZX Spectrum, so the software already knew what it would be running on. No guessing the hardware, not having to determine the capacities, not writing workaround in case a few were missing.

A system could be much more optimized, faster, cleaner. And easier to sell to the common people.

In the case of Linux all that hardware variety is also one of its strengths and as it's also used on servers it's not something you can or should take away.

But how knows, a Linux for everything and a Linux for the Linux One computer?

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RE[5]: Comment by MOS6510
by MOS6510 on Fri 22nd Nov 2013 10:31 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by MOS6510"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

Come to tink of it: I would LOVE a sleek looking computer with a Tux on it and a keyboard & mouse in the same style with penguins on them.

Without the Microsoft Windows tax it should be cheaper than other PCs.

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RE[4]: Comment by MOS6510
by twitterfire on Fri 22nd Nov 2013 19:36 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by MOS6510"
twitterfire Member since:
2008-09-11

IMHO it's an complete and utterly shit to write sensible code (like some parts of the OS) in interpreted languages.

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RE[4]: Comment by MOS6510
by BlueofRainbow on Sun 24th Nov 2013 15:07 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by MOS6510"
BlueofRainbow Member since:
2009-01-06

Yep,

My first personal computer was a 5 MHz PC-XT on DOS 2.11.

At first, it was OK.....a rarely I could type faster than it could echo the characters (text mode) onto the screen.

Now, I have a dual core multi-threading 2.5 GHz on Windows 7 64-bit.

At first, it was OK....then came the security updates and now I can type much faster than it can echo on the screen (graphical mode).

So, from my user perspective, there has not been any real gains.

Oh, I forgot to mention having now 8 GB of memory compared to the lowly 0.512 MB of my first system.

To combat bloat, maybe developers should be coding on and using the average system users have at home or are forced to use at work.....

Small is beautiful. The main odd feature of MenuetOS is that it is distributed for a 64 bit processor (and closed source) while still targeting a floppy drive as real/virtual boot device which were last available before 64 bit X86 CPUs came to market.

Migration to USB boot is hopefully on the path to release 1.0.

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RE[5]: Comment by MOS6510
by gass on Sun 24th Nov 2013 17:48 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by MOS6510"
gass Member since:
2006-11-29

Simply ... the OSses have evolved, not in speed but in unneeded features and *design*.

It is better to use Windows XP then windows 7. even without 64 bit support. Because it is simply faster and gets the job done.

Linux distributions have been doing the same. But maybe can have this note better than me, but it seems that the main cause is the abusive use of scripted languages like bash, python, javascript.

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RE[5]: Comment by MOS6510
by Bobthearch on Mon 25th Nov 2013 08:33 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by MOS6510"
Bobthearch Member since:
2006-01-27

Small is beautiful. The main odd feature of MenuetOS is that it is distributed for a 64 bit processor (and closed source) while still targeting a floppy drive as real/virtual boot device which were last available before 64 bit X86 CPUs came to market.


Brand new floppy drives are still available even today, although I've only seen external drives recently.

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