Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 21st Nov 2013 18:41 UTC, submitted by MOS6510
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The big story in The New York Times on November 20, 1985, concerned Hurricane Kate's advance as it smashed into northern Cuba and the Florida Keys before barreling north to threaten the Gulf Coast. But another big story -- for the technology world -- was about to unfold thousands of miles away in Las Vegas, where the Comdex trade show was getting under way.

Apple had grabbed headlines a year earlier with the introduction of its graphical Macintosh. Now, after two years of delays, Microsoft was finally ready to debut the much-promised Microsoft Windows.

It became the blueprint for many of Microsoft's new product launches. Early versions suck, but get progressively better over the years.

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RE[7]: Comment by MOS6510
by mikeinohio on Fri 22nd Nov 2013 14:49 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by MOS6510"
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2010-02-21

People who complain about hardware problems in Linux are usually comparing apples to oranges.

If you buy a pre-built Windows computer: all the hardware is going to work fine with the operating system. Likewise, if you were to buy a pre-built Linux computer from someplace like System76: you can be sure that the hardware will work just fine too.

The problem is when somebody takes a computer built for Windows and tries to install Linux on it. There may be some hardware you just can not get drivers for. The same problem happens when people try to switch versions of Windows on a machine and is probably worse. For example: If a person tries to upgrade a machine that came with Windows XP to Windows 7, it is likely that they are going to end up with some orphaned hardware.

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RE[8]: Comment by MOS6510
by moondevil on Fri 22nd Nov 2013 15:36 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by MOS6510"
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2005-07-08

My wireless card and DPMS driver issues happened with a Asus netbook sold with Ubuntu in Germany.

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RE[8]: Comment by MOS6510
by lucas_maximus on Fri 22nd Nov 2013 18:15 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by MOS6510"
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2009-08-18

If you buy a pre-built Windows computer: all the hardware is going to work fine with the operating system. Likewise, if you were to buy a pre-built Linux computer from someplace like System76: you can be sure that the hardware will work just fine too.


With the version of Ubuntu they ship the laptop with. Try another Linux distro this your mileage will vary.

The problem is when somebody takes a computer built for Windows and tries to install Linux on it. There may be some hardware you just can not get drivers for. The same problem happens when people try to switch versions of Windows on a machine and is probably worse. For example: If a person tries to upgrade a machine that came with Windows XP to Windows 7, it is likely that they are going to end up with some orphaned hardware


This only happens if you downgrade Windows on newer hardware, not if you upgrade.

Hardware that didn't exist at the time, the OS hasn't got drivers for ... who would have thought?!

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RE[9]: Comment by MOS6510
by abraxas on Fri 22nd Nov 2013 19:38 in reply to "RE[8]: Comment by MOS6510"
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2005-07-07

"If you buy a pre-built Windows computer: all the hardware is going to work fine with the operating system. Likewise, if you were to buy a pre-built Linux computer from someplace like System76: you can be sure that the hardware will work just fine too.


With the version of Ubuntu they ship the laptop with. Try another Linux distro this your mileage will vary.

The problem is when somebody takes a computer built for Windows and tries to install Linux on it. There may be some hardware you just can not get drivers for. The same problem happens when people try to switch versions of Windows on a machine and is probably worse. For example: If a person tries to upgrade a machine that came with Windows XP to Windows 7, it is likely that they are going to end up with some orphaned hardware


This only happens if you downgrade Windows on newer hardware, not if you upgrade.

Hardware that didn't exist at the time, the OS hasn't got drivers for ... who would have thought?!
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BS. Plenty of hardware has become obsolete on newer Microsoft systems. This is a dated reference but I remember getting a free printer and scanner with my brand new Windows ME laptop when ME first came out. The free hardware didn't have drivers for ME and NEVER did.

Not too long ago I did work for a printing company and most of the printers and scanners didn't have drivers for Windows 7 machines and never will because those machines can last 10-20 years but the manufacturer would rather sell you a new one and Microsoft doesn't give a fuck. This is actually a much better situation on Linux because you are not beholden to the manufacturer. I would be willing to bet there has been less hardware obsolescence on Linux over the past 20 years than Windows.

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