Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 21st Nov 2013 23:46 UTC
Internet & Networking

"We can end government censorship in a decade," Schmidt said during a speech in Washington. "The solution to government surveillance is to encrypt everything."

Setting aside the entertaining aspect of the source of said statement, I don't think encryption in and of itself is enough. Encryption performed by companies is useless, since we know by now that companies - US or otherwise - are more than eager to bend over backwards to please their governments.

What we need is encryption that we perform ourselves, so that neither governments nor companies are involved. I imagine some sort of box between your home network and the internet, that encrypts and decrypts everything, regardless of source or destination. This box obviously needs to run open source software, otherwise we'd be right back where we started.

Is something like that even possible?

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RE[2]: Comment by ilovebeer
by ilovebeer on Fri 22nd Nov 2013 18:44 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by ilovebeer"
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It isn't a matter of being "ok" or not, it's just a few simple facts about the world you're living in. Your (dis)approval of the facts is irrelevant.

Am I happy about it? No, of course not, and I don't allow myself the illusion that we have any true privacy, freedom, or democracy to begin with. I don't know why anyone would considering everywhere you look, you find evidence to the contrary.

You imply I'm speaking with `sheep mentality`, ... By all means go ahead and back that claim up by explaining how anything I've said qualifies as such. Considering how tall of an order that is, take as long as you like trying.

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RE[3]: Comment by ilovebeer
by RawMustard on Sat 23rd Nov 2013 05:38 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by ilovebeer"
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I interpreted your post as someone who thinks there's nothing we can do about it so why bother? They win we lose. Words of a sheeple, no?

If that's not what you're meaning then I apologise.

We can stop this if we all work together. But listening to and or putting trust in vile, low life, lying creeps like Schmidt is playing right into their hands. After all, he was the one that said you have no right to privacy on the internet and is tracking everyone that uses the net and building profiles on them. The scum is a wolf in sheep clothing.

And here's what you can do to foil their plans amongst other things.

We can stop this shit! But not by supporting dirt bags like spoogle or any other ussa corp, start fighting!

I didn't see him saying he's okay with it, and neither did I earlier

Touch a raw nerve did I? I read your posts and didn't reply to you because you didn't come across in the same way. You're smart, so help people fight this shit instead of fighting anyone that thinks we "can" do something about it. The first step is stop using products from vile creatures like Schmidt.

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RE[4]: Comment by ilovebeer
by WereCatf on Sat 23rd Nov 2013 06:02 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by ilovebeer"
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You're smart, so help people fight this shit instead of fighting anyone that thinks we "can" do something about it. The first step is stop using products from vile creatures like Schmidt.

I see you only berating Schmidt, but in truth you're playing into their hands no matter who you buy your stuff from -- China spies on you, Korea spies on you, Microsoft spies on you, LG spies on you, Nokia spies on you and so on and so forth. You'd quite literally have to stop buying services or products from anyone other than mom & pop - shops if you wanted not to play into such companies and governments' hands. Don't bother trying to vilify Schmidt while ignoring all the others, you just make yourself look petty.

Now, how useful is boycotting some company in the first place? We geeks are in the minority, the companies make most of their money and most of their tracking data from Joe Blows, and we boycotting someone will be like a fly trying to take down an elephant. You'd need a way of influencing the unwashed masses if you truly wanted to make a change or you'd have to get yourself in a position of power.

I've often toyed around with the idea of running for politics as I have plenty of characteristics that would quite possibly appeal to Joe Blows around here, making me easier to relate with -- I'm mentally unstable, I've been unemployed for a decade so I know what it's like, I've been at the brink of alcoholism, I don't come from some rich, well-known family and so on. I could use all those to play a campaign of appealing to the faults in every one of us and the government, and if I ever got elected I could start working on trying to improve things from top-down. Alas, I'm just not driven enough, I don't give a flying fuck about regular politics, only about basic human rights, privacy, environment and animal-life, and I'd probably just end up committing harakiri if I had to interact with all these greedy, selfish buttwipes every single day.

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