Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 21st Nov 2013 23:46 UTC
Internet & Networking

"We can end government censorship in a decade," Schmidt said during a speech in Washington. "The solution to government surveillance is to encrypt everything."

Setting aside the entertaining aspect of the source of said statement, I don't think encryption in and of itself is enough. Encryption performed by companies is useless, since we know by now that companies - US or otherwise - are more than eager to bend over backwards to please their governments.

What we need is encryption that we perform ourselves, so that neither governments nor companies are involved. I imagine some sort of box between your home network and the internet, that encrypts and decrypts everything, regardless of source or destination. This box obviously needs to run open source software, otherwise we'd be right back where we started.

Is something like that even possible?

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RE[7]: Comment by pcunite
by Alfman on Mon 25th Nov 2013 06:35 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by pcunite"
Alfman
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2011-01-28

Lennie,

"So I work at a hosting provider. RapidSSL from GeoTrust and EssentialSSL from Comodo are really 10 and 13 euros (a little over 13 and 17,5 dollars)."

I sell hosting services too ;)

So you're talking about volume discounts then...I was talking about consumer market prices (RapidSSL running at $49 right now). Never the less, I guess you must be big enough to negotiate prices significantly down? I really tried to become an SSL reseller for my hosting business earlier this year with several of the SSL providers (including comodo) however I discovered that for small businesses like myself, reseller prices were just as expensive as the market prices, and then my profits would be $0 - overhead if I charged market prices. If you can get me connected to someone who can offer cheaper prices I might take advantage of that.

As of right now I tell clients to buy the certs themselves and I charge them for my time in setting their environment up for them, which may be worth more to me than reselling certs anyways.

Edit: I'm looking at rapidssl's resellar program right now (who are resellers for geotrust). Their reseller prices start at $34/year, at 50 certs you are still paying $24/cert/year, how many do you need to sell to get down to $13/cert??

https://products.geotrust.com/geocenter/reseller/register.do?partner...

Isn't it funny that reseller prices are higher than the end user prices from RunSSL?

Edited 2013-11-25 06:53 UTC

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RE[8]: Comment by pcunite
by Lennie on Mon 25th Nov 2013 07:51 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by pcunite"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

What you do is, find a reseller of the reseller that already does a lot of volume ;-)

http://www.rapidssl.com/resell-ssl/find-reseller/index.html

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