Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 26th Nov 2013 18:31 UTC
Games

Valve's official Steam Machine prototype isn't cheap, but it won't be the only Steam-powered video-game console available come 2014. This morning, iBuyPower revealed a prototype of its own upcoming Steam Machine, which will go on sale for just $499 next year. For the price of an Xbox One, the computer will offer a multicore AMD CPU and a discrete AMD Radeon R9 270 graphics card - that's a $180 GPU all by itself - and come with Valve's Steam Controller as part of the package deal.

That's an absolute steal. This is exactly what Valve is betting on: for the same price, an x86 SteamBox will be more powerful than the new consoles. with SteamOS, it has all the convenience of a console, too. With the launch titles for the two new consoles being total and utter garbage, the argument "but SteamOS has no games!" is moot.

I can't wait until CES coming January when Valve will unveil its publishing partners. That's the make-or-break moment. If SteamOS will get all the same major titles as the consoles, why on earth would anyone want a limited, locked-down, proprietary, slower console?

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RE[6]: Comment by shmerl
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 26th Nov 2013 21:46 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by shmerl"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

Yes, and for a long, long time DOS was a far better option for gaming than Windows.

With your attitude, nobody would have ever moved to Windows, and nobody would have ever tried to improve the gaming situation on Windows. However, because there were people who wanted to improve gaming on Windows (in this case, Microsoft itself; in the case of SteamBox, Valve+hardware manufacturers), Windows eventually turned into the better option.

That's what's happening right now. SteamOS will make Linux (or, at least, Valve's Linux) a viable option for gaming. Because, you know, there's no reason why it can't.

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RE[7]: Comment by shmerl
by lucas_maximus on Tue 26th Nov 2013 21:52 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by shmerl"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Yes, and for a long, long time DOS was a far better option for gaming than Windows.


We aren't talking about the ancient past.

With your attitude, nobody would have ever moved to Windows, and nobody would have ever tried to improve the gaming situation on Windows. However, because there were people who wanted to improve gaming on Windows (in this case, Microsoft itself; in the case of SteamBox, Valve+hardware manufacturers), Windows eventually turned into the better option.


Because the person that was pushing the OS was actively trying to help the game makers ... not the other way around (which is now).

Most Linux contributors aren't interested in improving the consumer experience. They are interested in improving the kernel for their own gains (server hardware and smartphones).

The driving motivation behind distros and the kernel aren't the same as those as what Microsoft wanted ... a consumer level OS.

That's what's happening right now. SteamOS will make Linux (or, at least, Valve's Linux) a viable option for gaming. Because, you know, there's no reason why it can't.


Debatable. If most of the money is being made on PS4 and Xbox One, they will do half arsed ports (PC games have suffered already from thing.

So I could get a PS4 which the game is guaranteed to work on with no problems or a Steambox with a crappy port.

Comon be realistic.

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RE[8]: Comment by shmerl
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 26th Nov 2013 22:39 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by shmerl"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

You seem to completely ignore the fact that several companies are currently hard at work trying to improve gaming on Linux, and have already made huge gains in doing so. One of these companies is the owner of one of the most successful and most popular gaming services in the world. The other companies are the very companies making the most important part of gaming hardware - the GPU.

You seem to think that all that work either isn't happening, or that it won't bear fruit (which is a lie, since it has already borne fruit).

Most Linux contributors aren't interested in improving the consumer experience. They are interested in improving the kernel for their own gains (server hardware and smartphones).


Interesting that you're listing smartphones. Pre-Android, smartphones weren't a concern for Linux contributors at all. Thanks to Google... It now is. See how that works? Now replace 'Google' with 'Valve'... Well, you get the gist.

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RE[8]: Comment by shmerl
by WereCatf on Wed 27th Nov 2013 06:25 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by shmerl"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Because the person that was pushing the OS was actively trying to help the game makers ... not the other way around (which is now).


What? You're claiming Valve isn't trying to help game devs?

Most Linux contributors aren't interested in improving the consumer experience. They are interested in improving the kernel for their own gains (server hardware and smartphones).


It's irrelevant what the others are interested in as it's Valve who's responsible for SteamOS, and Valve is obviously interested in improving the experience. Also, I don't know if you're deliberately trying to spread FUD or if you're just simply so deluded, but even a cursory look at any of the kernel release statements would reveal plenty of desktop - and laptop - related improvements. Go on, take a look for yourself. That already in and of itself renders your claim false.

Comon be realistic.


You tell others to be realistic when you yourself aren't? First off, not all ports are crappy, only the minority of them are. Secondly, the crappiness most of the time comes from the poor handling of keyboard+mouse, but that's actually irrelevant if you're playing the game using a controller. And you, Steam Box is all about playing with a controller...

I know you're a die-hard Windows-fanboy, I've seen so many of your comments over the years idolizing Windows and vilifying anything or anyone going against it, but you really should learn to open your world up.

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