Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 3rd Dec 2013 19:04 UTC
Games

Absolutely fantastic article by Tracey Lien.

If the selection at the average retailer is anything to go by, girls don't play video games. If cultural stereotypes are anything to go by, video games are for males. They're the makers, the buyers and the players.

There is often truth to stereotypes. But whatever truth there may be, the stereotype does not show the long and complicated path taken to formulate it, spread it and have it come back to shape societal views.

The attitude towards women in video games is even worse when you take online multiplayer into consideration. One of my team mates in League of Legends is a woman, and I've seen some absolutely terrible things being thrown her way in chat - during and even after the game is over. I've also pretended to be female in League of Legends just to see what would happen, and it was just as bad. However, I could just shrug it off - hearing the things guys say while you're pretending to be a woman as an experiment is a hell of a lot different than hearing these things when you're actually a woman.

I even caught myself thinking 'my female team mate should just pretend to be a guy' - but you know what? That's expletive ridiculous. As Lien details in her article, changing the way video games are being marketed would be a very good first step that could most certainly snowball into the future.

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Socially awkward...
by leech on Tue 3rd Dec 2013 22:59 UTC
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2006-01-10

Well, there is probably a reason (especially the MMORPG players) are 'sexist'. You remember the boys who would pick on girls, but it was because they liked them, but didn't really know how to show / tell their feelings?

Really the same thing here. Not to mention the people who generally are the ones that are always playing games are the ones who are doing so because they have no girlfriend/wife to spend time with.

Kind of the chicken/egg thing, where they probably could get a woman if they'd stop playing games and go outside occasionally, but at the same time they push them all away while playing the games and so they continue them.

Of course I can't say much, I'm socially awkward and and spend too much time on the Internet myself ;)

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RE: Socially awkward...
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 3rd Dec 2013 23:02 in reply to "Socially awkward..."
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Well, there is probably a reason (especially the MMORPG players) are 'sexist'. You remember the boys who would pick on girls, but it was because they liked them, but didn't really know how to show / tell their feelings?

Really the same thing here. Not to mention the people who generally are the ones that are always playing games are the ones who are doing so because they have no girlfriend/wife to spend time with.


I'm sorry, but that's an incredibly outdated view. Playing games has become so mainstream that insisting it's all just socially inept nerds is... Quite, quite simplistic.

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RE[2]: Socially awkward...
by WorknMan on Tue 3rd Dec 2013 23:13 in reply to "RE: Socially awkward..."
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

I'm sorry, but that's an incredibly outdated view. Playing games has become so mainstream that insisting it's all just socially inept nerds is... Quite, quite simplistic.


Either way, if you're a hot chick, you're going to have lewd comments thrown your way. That's just the way the world works, and doesn't have much in particular to do with video games. For example, go on IRC as a female and see how many PMs you get from dudes.

As for females in video games, I don't know why we specifically need more women playing games, except for maybe guys being annoyed when their girlfriends complain that they're always playing video games. I mean, you don't hear a bunch of people complaining that there aren't enough males into arts & crafts, do you? Should I be offended or left out that Cosmopolitan caters specifically to women? If females want to play video games, then let them play. If not, f**k 'em. And I don't mean that figuratively either ;)

Seriously though, I've had some girlfriends who played video games and some who didn't. It really doesn't matter to me one way or the other. Just like women in tech, I don't think we should discourage them from joining, nor should we have a real push to get more of them involved. Let those who are really into it come of their own accord, and obviously welcome them if they want to join the fun.

Edited 2013-12-03 23:14 UTC

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

You're quite correct Thom. There are all kinds of socially inept people playing games, not just those that are good at math and science.

If you act towards woman this way, you are by definition socially inept, regardless of your SAT scores.

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