Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 3rd Dec 2013 19:04 UTC
Games

Absolutely fantastic article by Tracey Lien.

If the selection at the average retailer is anything to go by, girls don't play video games. If cultural stereotypes are anything to go by, video games are for males. They're the makers, the buyers and the players.

There is often truth to stereotypes. But whatever truth there may be, the stereotype does not show the long and complicated path taken to formulate it, spread it and have it come back to shape societal views.

The attitude towards women in video games is even worse when you take online multiplayer into consideration. One of my team mates in League of Legends is a woman, and I've seen some absolutely terrible things being thrown her way in chat - during and even after the game is over. I've also pretended to be female in League of Legends just to see what would happen, and it was just as bad. However, I could just shrug it off - hearing the things guys say while you're pretending to be a woman as an experiment is a hell of a lot different than hearing these things when you're actually a woman.

I even caught myself thinking 'my female team mate should just pretend to be a guy' - but you know what? That's expletive ridiculous. As Lien details in her article, changing the way video games are being marketed would be a very good first step that could most certainly snowball into the future.

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RE[2]: Appalling.
by kwan_e on Wed 4th Dec 2013 02:33 UTC in reply to "RE: Appalling."
kwan_e
Member since:
2007-02-18

I've yet to encounter a woman in my personal life who seemed helpless to avoid such vitriol herself.


The problem is why should they need to avoid it in the first place?

We don't walk through the city during the day on the look out for knifers all the time. We expect a general level of safety and non-threatening social interaction.

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RE[3]: Appalling.
by Novan_Leon on Wed 4th Dec 2013 02:45 in reply to "RE[2]: Appalling."
Novan_Leon Member since:
2005-12-07

"I've yet to encounter a woman in my personal life who seemed helpless to avoid such vitriol herself.


The problem is why should they need to avoid it in the first place?

We don't walk through the city during the day on the look out for knifers all the time. We expect a general level of safety and non-threatening social interaction.
"

Because this is reality, and the real world isn't always a pretty place.

You may not walk through the city looking to be mugged, but you wouldn't walk through the Bronx at night simply because you feel you shouldn't have to avoid being mugged.

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RE[4]: Appalling.
by kwan_e on Wed 4th Dec 2013 02:52 in reply to "RE[3]: Appalling."
kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

"[q]I've yet to encounter a woman in my personal life who seemed helpless to avoid such vitriol herself.


The problem is why should they need to avoid it in the first place?

We don't walk through the city during the day on the look out for knifers all the time. We expect a general level of safety and non-threatening social interaction.
"

Because this is reality, and the real world isn't always a pretty place.

You may not walk through the city looking to be mugged, but you wouldn't walk through the Bronx at night simply because you feel you shouldn't have to avoid being mugged. [/q]

And the real world can be changed. Why do I always need to repeat this.

"It's the real world. It can't be changed. Blah blah blah"

Going online to a very public place of recreation should NOT be the equivalent of walking the Bronx at night, and here you are arguing that it SHOULD be like that because "it's the real world".

Pathetic and cowardly.

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