Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 3rd Dec 2013 19:04 UTC

Absolutely fantastic article by Tracey Lien.

If the selection at the average retailer is anything to go by, girls don't play video games. If cultural stereotypes are anything to go by, video games are for males. They're the makers, the buyers and the players.

There is often truth to stereotypes. But whatever truth there may be, the stereotype does not show the long and complicated path taken to formulate it, spread it and have it come back to shape societal views.

The attitude towards women in video games is even worse when you take online multiplayer into consideration. One of my team mates in League of Legends is a woman, and I've seen some absolutely terrible things being thrown her way in chat - during and even after the game is over. I've also pretended to be female in League of Legends just to see what would happen, and it was just as bad. However, I could just shrug it off - hearing the things guys say while you're pretending to be a woman as an experiment is a hell of a lot different than hearing these things when you're actually a woman.

I even caught myself thinking 'my female team mate should just pretend to be a guy' - but you know what? That's expletive ridiculous. As Lien details in her article, changing the way video games are being marketed would be a very good first step that could most certainly snowball into the future.

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RE[3]: Can't take the heat
by Wootery on Wed 4th Dec 2013 16:02 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Can't take the heat"
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That is just focusing on a part of the problem and ignoring the rest.

We're discussing sexism in a particular context, so of course, yes, it's only a subset of that particular context.

It's not the whole picture of the abusive-morons-in-multiplayer issue, sure, but one could argue the exact same way from the other side, and I suspect with much greater success: feminism addresses a much more important issue than 'just' morons being offensive online.

Your view seems to be that sexism isn't something worth taking seriously. I submit that it is.

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feminism addresses a much more important issue than 'just' morons being offensive online

Is it "morons being offensive online to women"? Fuck it, you know what? I'd take a bullshit spewing CoD kid in my video games over man hating, censor happy PC police that modern western feminism is.

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RE[4]: Can't take the heat
by qbast on Wed 4th Dec 2013 18:37 in reply to "RE[3]: Can't take the heat"
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Your reasoning seems quite circular: it is sexism, because we are focusing on gender-related insults (out of whole mass of everything-related insults) and we are focusing on gender-related insults because of sexism. I see it as just one minor subcategory of online trolling, not really worth of any more consideration than any other kind of trolling.

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