Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 9th Dec 2013 17:47 UTC
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The giants of the tech industry are uniting to wage a campaign for sweeping reforms to the National Security Agency.

Google, Facebook, Twitter, Yahoo, Microsoft, Apple, LinkedIn and AOL are setting aside their business rivalries to demand that Congress and President Obama scale back the government's voracious surveillance.

These companies had little to no qualms about teaming up with the US government back when it was all done in relative secrecy, but now that it's out in the open, they're acting like heroes. This campaign would never have been launched if Snowden hadn't blown the whistle, which means the motive behind this new campaign is money - not morality.

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Comment by Nelson
by Nelson on Mon 9th Dec 2013 18:16 UTC
Nelson
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2005-11-29

I think a lot of this anger is misplaced by people who want companies to exercise morality on their behalf. If people are so opposed to what the NSA is doing, then get out and participate in an election and affect change.

A company being compelled by their host government to engage in surveillance is the fault of the government and the elected representatives in power who enact the policies.

Stop using companies as scapegoats and exercise your civic duty to vote.

Edited 2013-12-09 18:16 UTC

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RE: Comment by Nelson
by dmrio on Mon 9th Dec 2013 18:20 in reply to "Comment by Nelson"
dmrio Member since:
2005-08-26

I can not vote for another country. Even if their unscrupulous companies do affect my business.

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RE[2]: Comment by Nelson
by Nelson on Mon 9th Dec 2013 18:33 in reply to "RE: Comment by Nelson"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

I'm sorry for you. According to Thom, if you post about it enough on OSNews maybe the NSA overlords will yield.

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RE: Comment by Nelson
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 9th Dec 2013 18:20 in reply to "Comment by Nelson"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Naiveté.

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RE[2]: Comment by Nelson
by Nelson on Mon 9th Dec 2013 18:31 in reply to "RE: Comment by Nelson"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Yes, I agree. Repeating yourself on OSNews with a snarky lead in over and over is a much more productive means to an end.

Lol.

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RE: Comment by Nelson
by darknexus on Mon 9th Dec 2013 18:42 in reply to "Comment by Nelson"
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2008-07-15

elections? Don't be an idiot. Our elections are a fucking joke and anyone who lives here knows it!

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RE[2]: Comment by Nelson
by Nelson on Mon 9th Dec 2013 18:46 in reply to "RE: Comment by Nelson"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

How ignorantly cynical of you.
If elections are meaningless its because the voting electorate has failed in its duty to be informed and involved in the issues.

That's where scapegoating companies comes in.

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RE: Comment by Nelson
by Drumhellar on Mon 9th Dec 2013 20:00 in reply to "Comment by Nelson"
Drumhellar Member since:
2005-07-12

I think a lot of this anger is misplaced by people who want companies to exercise morality on their behalf. If people are so opposed to what the NSA is doing, then get out and participate in an election and affect change.


Why not do both? Why not pressure our representatives in Congress and pressure corporations to effect change with their lobbyists? It'd be nice if we could simply vote on the issue, or if it were easier to pick a different candidate, but sadly, the two-party system we have in America makes changing which candidate to vote for extremely difficult to do over one issue.

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RE: Comment by Nelson
by indieinvader on Tue 10th Dec 2013 02:46 in reply to "Comment by Nelson"
indieinvader Member since:
2009-08-11

The problem is that in the US you need money if you want government to pay attention to you. Who has money? Corporations and the people in charge.

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