Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 9th Dec 2013 17:47 UTC

The giants of the tech industry are uniting to wage a campaign for sweeping reforms to the National Security Agency.

Google, Facebook, Twitter, Yahoo, Microsoft, Apple, LinkedIn and AOL are setting aside their business rivalries to demand that Congress and President Obama scale back the government's voracious surveillance.

These companies had little to no qualms about teaming up with the US government back when it was all done in relative secrecy, but now that it's out in the open, they're acting like heroes. This campaign would never have been launched if Snowden hadn't blown the whistle, which means the motive behind this new campaign is money - not morality.

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RE[3]: Comment by Nelson
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 9th Dec 2013 19:07 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Nelson"
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Yes, I agree. Repeating yourself on OSNews with a snarky lead in over and over is a much more productive means to an end.


Ah, the old trick of putting words in my mouth that I have never, ever, said. That's getting old.

I'm not an American. I cannot vote in your country. In my country, I have been voting for a party that actively opposes stuff like this since its inception.

An apology would be prudent.

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RE[4]: Comment by Nelson
by Nelson on Mon 9th Dec 2013 19:17 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Nelson"
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I'm sorry my words hurt your feelings. You're right, don't vote to change the policies you're opposed to.

and for some strange reason, you seem to think my original suggestions that US citizens vote to change US policies applied to you.

I'm sure you're aware which country you're a citizen of, so I shouldn't have to attach a disclaimer to my comments.

and its great that you vote, really it is, and you'd use your bully pulpit much more effectively if you encouraged others go do the same, rather than fanning some ant corporate flame that will amount to little more than online saber rattling.

If the NSA policies need to change then start raising awareness, organizing, calling representatives, and yes, voting.

Edited 2013-12-09 19:21 UTC

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RE[5]: Comment by Nelson
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 9th Dec 2013 19:25 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Nelson"
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The US electoral system is inherently broken, and voting is not going to change that. Should I lie and tell US citizens to vote A or B because it'll change anything, even though I know it won't?

I don't lie, I'm sorry. You may believe that the US electoral system is sound and that it properly reflects the will of the people, and that the people have control over that system - but you're one of the few.

It's not cynicism. It's based on observation. You know, science.

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