Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 9th Dec 2013 22:43 UTC
Windows

Two changes supposedly coming to the next version of Windows, according to veteran Paul Thurrott:

Metro apps running in windows on the desktop. As you can today with third-party utilities such as ModernMix, the next version of Windows will let users optionally run Metro apps in floating windows on the desktop.

Start menu. After bringing back the Start button in Windows 8.1, Microsoft will take the next logical step in the next Windows version and make the Start menu available as an option. It's possible this will appear only on those product versions that support the desktop.

This would be Microsoft admitting they got Windows 8 all wrong.

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tidux
Member since:
2011-08-13

The ribbons in Outlook are fantastic at hiding commonly used functionality, forcing you to poke around at different "tabs" in the ribbon toolbar. I sometimes just find it easier to use OWA.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

No it doesn't. The old office interface I remember using a lot when I was at uni had everything stacked 4 levels deep in some random dialog box.

It was rubbish. Now stuff is logically grouped under tabs ... if you don't understand how to use tabs (been on the web for how long), please don't use a computer.

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hamster Member since:
2006-10-06

No it doesn't. The old office interface I remember using a lot when I was at uni had everything stacked 4 levels deep in some random dialog box.


It's most likely grouped the same way in the ribbon interface. Only now it's a huge mess on each tab..


It was rubbish. Now stuff is logically grouped under tabs ... if you don't understand how to use tabs (been on the web for how long), please don't use a computer.


Does this translate into: If you don't follow the ms way please dont use a computer?

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phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

No it doesn't. The old office interface I remember using a lot when I was at uni had everything stacked 4 levels deep in some random dialog box.

It was rubbish. Now stuff is logically grouped under tabs ... if you don't understand how to use tabs (been on the web for how long), please don't use a computer.


Yes, the MS Office menus were a mess, with options hidden in weird places.

However, not every office suite had that issue. Nor did every application have that issue.

Replacing a b0rked imlementation of a good idea (hierarchical menus) with a b0rked implementation of a bad idea (ribbon) is not progress.

Replacing a b0rked implementation of a good idea with a good implementation of a good idea is progress.

I really miss the smart dialogs that Lotus SmartSuite used. And I really miss the nice menus that WordPerfect used. It's too bad neither of those are available on Linux, or for under $100 on Windows (still using WordPerfect 2000 on my Windows installs).

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moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

The ribbons in Outlook are fantastic at hiding commonly used functionality, forcing you to poke around at different "tabs" in the ribbon toolbar. I sometimes just find it easier to use OWA.



Just spend a few hours using the Eclipse based Lotus Notes and you will be crying for Outlook in no time.

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MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

I wish I could gave you an enormous mod up, so big is my Lotus Notes hatred.

The only people who love Lotus Notes are people who inflict bodily harm on themselves when they're in a good mood.

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