Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 9th Dec 2013 22:43 UTC
Windows

Two changes supposedly coming to the next version of Windows, according to veteran Paul Thurrott:

Metro apps running in windows on the desktop. As you can today with third-party utilities such as ModernMix, the next version of Windows will let users optionally run Metro apps in floating windows on the desktop.

Start menu. After bringing back the Start button in Windows 8.1, Microsoft will take the next logical step in the next Windows version and make the Start menu available as an option. It's possible this will appear only on those product versions that support the desktop.

This would be Microsoft admitting they got Windows 8 all wrong.

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phoenix
Member since:
2005-07-11

The problem with the ribbon is that you have 4 (if not more) different sizes of icons. Some sections have 1 row, some 2 rows, some 3 rows of icons, all next to each other, with different vertical spacing. Some sections have icons linked together, others have them separated by whitespace. Some sections have drop-downs mixed in with icons. All with multiple different fonts being used.

IOW, it's visual vomit, and very hard to pick anything out without slowly reading every ... single ... icon ... over ... and ... over ... trying to find something.

And, it's all animated. Things move around when you click and hover and drag.

If there were 2 sizes of icons, and 2 rows per section, and proper spacing and alignment, and 1 font type/size, then maybe the ribbon would be useful.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

I've never seen anything move in the 2007 ribbon interface or the Windows Explorer ribbon interface. Maybe it is an Office 2010 complaint, I haven't used Office 2010 for any considerable amount of time.

I don't find the differing icon sizes a problem, it doesn't seem to be too different than web design where you tend to make call to actions larger.

Edited 2013-12-10 23:18 UTC

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Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

I've never seen anything move in the 2007 ribbon interface or the Windows Explorer ribbon interface. Maybe it is an Office 2010 complaint, I haven't used Office 2010 for any considerable amount of time.

I don't find the differing icon sizes a problem, it doesn't seem to be too different than web design where you tend to make call to actions larger.

Differing icon sizes in isolation would be bearable. But, as the former poster (and others in this topic) have said, there's variety to the design of each element than just their icon sizes.

It's when you incorporate all of those points into one "toolbar" when I start to struggle.

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