Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 9th Dec 2013 22:43 UTC

Two changes supposedly coming to the next version of Windows, according to veteran Paul Thurrott:

Metro apps running in windows on the desktop. As you can today with third-party utilities such as ModernMix, the next version of Windows will let users optionally run Metro apps in floating windows on the desktop.

Start menu. After bringing back the Start button in Windows 8.1, Microsoft will take the next logical step in the next Windows version and make the Start menu available as an option. It's possible this will appear only on those product versions that support the desktop.

This would be Microsoft admitting they got Windows 8 all wrong.

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You are really upset aren't you?

No. Why would I be? I'm just making the point that you're not even playing by your own rules.

Look you can do clever parodies all you like. The point is that there is no data i.e. statistical data you can link that says the Office Ribbon has bad usability.

So post some data that says the Office ribbon has good usability.

Anecdotal or not, we've at least cited reasons why we don't like it. Meanwhile you've not presented any reasons as to why you don't think the ribbon bar isn't total garbage.

I have said this in the other comment tree, I am quite willing to look at data that doesn't support my opinion. There has been none presented by you or anyone else.

How about the number of people in this topic who've complained about it vs the number of people (ie just you) who've defended it :p

But as I said earlier; I don't need to prove a personal preference any more than anecdotally. Which is still more than you've proven any of the points that you've been arguing.

Edited 2013-12-11 01:50 UTC

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