Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 11th Dec 2013 11:32 UTC
Microsoft

Ina Fried has just confirmed the Nokia Android phone - and even argues that Microsoft might go ahead with actually releasing it.

According to a Nokia source, the software has a look more similar to Windows Phone than to the "squircle" icons used on the Asha. Normandy would also serve as a way to deliver Microsoft services such as Bing and Skype.

That is seen by some at Microsoft as a more palatable alternative than seeing more of those first-time smartphone buyers sign up not just for Android but also for Google's array of services.

Makes sense. It does raise another question, though: wouldn't this be yet another operating system Microsoft would need to develop and support?

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RE[4]: Mistake
by Nelson on Wed 11th Dec 2013 23:26 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Mistake"
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http://bgr.com/2013/12/11/microsoft-tablet-sales-2014/

"81% of CIOs issue/plan to issue Windows tablets,
up dramatically from 56% six months ago, and nearly in line with iPads.” This is particularly important for Microsoft because the rise in corporate interest for Windows tablets has coincided with a collapse in corporate interest for Android tablets: According to Bernstein, only 15% of CIOs surveyed said that they’ve issued or plan to issue Android tablets. An upswing in demand in Windows tablets would dovetail nicely with the growth Microsoft has seen in Windows Phone sales this year, which has helped the company firmly establish Windows Phone as the world’s No. 3 mobile platform provider.


And FWIW, Microsoft owns the entire stack so non Windows Phones in the enterprise likely are still using Exchange and are still managed using Microsoft MDM solutions.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2423899,00.asp

The tools that allow Microsoft to provide a comprehensive mobile-optimized IT ecosystem include Windows Server 2012 R2, System Center 2012 Configuration Manager, Windows Intune and Azure. With them, IT can centrally manage Windows phones and tablets as well as devices running Apple's iOS and Google's Android. I think it's safe to assume Windows mobile devices will be the optimal devices to work within a Windows ecosystem.

With Windows 8 mobile devices and PCs given the ability to join a Windows domain, IT can take advantage of features such Dynamic Access Control, Virtual Desktop Infrastructure, and multi-factor authentication to deliver a full corporate experience to a user's tablet or laptop. Redmond is also pushing those capabilities out to its phones. Recently, Tony Mestres, vice president of Windows Phone partner and channel marketing, announced an expansion of Windows Phone enterprise capabilities which includes access to corporate resources behind the firewall with app-aware, auto-triggered VPN.



....or maybe they'll use Chromebooks and Google Docs lol

Edited 2013-12-11 23:33 UTC

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RE[5]: Mistake
by galvanash on Thu 12th Dec 2013 09:54 in reply to "RE[4]: Mistake"
galvanash Member since:
2006-01-25

""81% of CIOs issue/plan to issue Windows tablets,
up dramatically from 56% six months ago, and nearly in line with iPads.”


...snip

And FWIW, Microsoft owns the entire stack so non Windows Phones in the enterprise likely are still using Exchange and are still managed using Microsoft MDM solutions.
"

That's nice, but what does it have to do with WP7 and WP8?

Besides, I don't think a survey with a total sample size of 105 CIOs it is representative of any meaningful trend...

I have seen other surveys:

http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2265311/byod-to-be-widespread-in-bus...

...saying BYOD will hit nearly 50% of all businesses in the next two years. CIOs don't get much say about all of those purchases, will they?

And that survey involved 2000 CIOs...

Anyway, I work at a company that considers itself a "Microsoft Shop". We use most of their infrastructure management tools, almost all of our desktops are Windows 7/8, we use Exchange for Email, SQL for our databases, Office for our productivity tools, etc. etc.

We used to issue BBs for phones. Switched to BYOD about 2 years ago, and we let users pick from iOS, Android, or WP.

You could fit every Windows Phone in our organization in your front pocket...

So yeah, Tablets? Maybe... I could see that happening - Surface has some compelling use cases. Phones? Not a chance in hell - Windows Phone may creep up to 5%-10% marketshare for a while, but I see no reason to believe it will ever get anywhere north of that - especially when you factor in that the nearly half of all business phones will be bought through consumer channels in the coming years...

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RE[6]: Mistake
by Nelson on Thu 12th Dec 2013 11:06 in reply to "RE[5]: Mistake"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29



That's nice, but what does it have to do with WP7 and WP8?

Besides, I don't think a survey with a total sample size of 105 CIOs it is representative of any meaningful trend...


This has always been about Microsoft allegedly not being relevant in enterprise, something patently false. That's despite JAlexoid and your attempt to reframe the argument.


I have seen other surveys:

http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2265311/byod-to-be-widespread-in-bus...

...saying BYOD will hit nearly 50% of all businesses in the next two years. CIOs don't get much say about all of those purchases, will they?

And that survey involved 2000 CIOs...


That's the advantage of Microsoft being a vendor of management tools, the email infrastructure, Office, Windows, Sharepoint, etc.

Microsoft is highly, highly entrenched in the enterprise. They're being paid one way or another.


Anyway, I work at a company that considers itself a "Microsoft Shop". We use most of their infrastructure management tools, almost all of our desktops are Windows 7/8, we use Exchange for Email, SQL for our databases, Office for our productivity tools, etc. etc.

We used to issue BBs for phones. Switched to BYOD about 2 years ago, and we let users pick from iOS, Android, or WP.


Illustrates the point I just made. WP for now having low enterprise penetration is completely aside from Microsoft dominating the enterprise.


Phone may creep up to 5%-10% marketshare for a while, but I see no reason to believe it will ever get anywhere north of that - especially when you factor in that the nearly half of all business phones will be bought through consumer channels in the coming years...


That nay or may not be the case, but fortunes change and tables turn. Microsoft's enterprise position gives it an opportunity to have a conversation about a completely vertical solution where they have a compelling story. What happens down the road, does the consumeration of IT fizzle out, is it a given that BYOD is here to stay? We'll see.

Edited 2013-12-12 11:12 UTC

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RE[5]: Mistake
by JAlexoid on Thu 12th Dec 2013 10:40 in reply to "RE[4]: Mistake"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Again!?!?! Seriously... you are now a branded diehard Microsoft fanboy.
Ignoring totally that Windows Tablets are not Windows Phones and ranting on.

Fact of the matter is that Microsoft does not offer an accelerated VPN... And guess what? WP still cannot play nice with corporate VPNs. And enterprises with their own Exchange servers don't tend to give direct access to Exchange without a protected network connection setup.

That is why Good for Enterprise and BB are widely used. But hey... don't let Microsoft's sad state of affairs in the enterprise mobile market detract you from replying with irrelevant rants.

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RE[6]: Mistake
by Nelson on Thu 12th Dec 2013 12:25 in reply to "RE[5]: Mistake"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

VPN for Exchange is pretty much a cherry picked corner case, its not something that's fundamentally required.

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