Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 16th Dec 2013 23:15 UTC
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A federal judge in Washington ruled on Monday that the bulk collection of Americans' telephone records by the National Security Agency is likely to violate the US constitution, in the most significant legal setback for the agency since the first disclosures prompted by the whistleblower Edward Snowden.

Judge Richard Leon declared that the mass collection of metadata probably violates the fourth amendment, which prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures, and was "almost Orwellian" in its scope. In a judgment replete with literary swipes against the NSA, he said James Madison, the architect of the US constitution, would be "aghast" at the scope of the agency’s collection of Americans' communications data.

It's just a preliminary ruling, and while the judge stated that he would most likely uphold the preliminary ruling after the merits of the case have been handled, there's probably thousands of appeals and stuff like that where this could crumble into dust.

Once a government has obtained a power, it rarely releases it. That's the nature of government - it can only grow.

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RE: Yup
by darknexus on Tue 17th Dec 2013 00:34 UTC in reply to "Yup"
darknexus
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2008-07-15

"Once a government has obtained a power, it rarely releases it.


So you liberals keep that in mind the next time you insist that the government should do this or that ;)
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Took the words right out of my mouth. ;)

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RE[2]: Yup
by darknexus on Tue 17th Dec 2013 00:35 in reply to "RE: Yup"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

"[q]Once a government has obtained a power, it rarely releases it.


So you liberals keep that in mind the next time you insist that the government should do this or that ;)
"

Took the words right out of my mouth. ;) [/q]
In the interest of fairness though, I have to say the modern Neocons are just as bad as the liberals. Both want increased government power and control, just in different areas.

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RE[3]: Yup
by emarkp on Tue 17th Dec 2013 01:04 in reply to "RE[2]: Yup"
emarkp Member since:
2005-09-10

1) Please define 'neocon'
2) We can simplify to say: If you slam politician A for doing X, be sure to slam politician B for also doing X (or even something X^2).

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RE[3]: Yup
by tupp on Tue 17th Dec 2013 01:11 in reply to "RE[2]: Yup"
tupp Member since:
2006-11-12

It appears that in OP:
:P = /s

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RE[3]: Yup
by WorknMan on Tue 17th Dec 2013 01:33 in reply to "RE[2]: Yup"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

In the interest of fairness though, I have to say the modern Neocons are just as bad as the liberals.


Of course, you are right. I just pick on liberals here, because they seem to represent the majority in the tech blogosphere.

Conservatives claim to want 'less government', which we all know is a bunch of happy horseshit. In truth, they just want more government in different places than liberals do. For example, trying to either put restrictions or outright ban online gambling and pornography.

You also notice how these so called 'free market capitalist' corporations go screaming to the government every time they start getting their asses handed to them by the competition. 'Hey, let's sue our competitors over the use of rounded corners...' Bunch of dammed hypocrites, I say.

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