Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 17th Dec 2013 00:05 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

We just discovered an issue in both and today which causes update of the store token required for accessing store repositories to fail. A fix for that has been pushed a few minutes ago: The update to version you might be seeing on your device soon contains exactly this one fix to keep store access working.

My Jolla arrived this morning, and I've been playing with it all day. It is by far the most exciting device and operating system I've used in a long, long time. When it arrived, the first update to the operating system was already waiting for me to be installed - and only a few hours later, another update is hitting the device. They have promised another large bugfix and stability update before the end of the year, with updates with new features arriving early next year.

These men and women know what they're doing. They're not overselling, and they keep their promises. A very promising start.

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RE[2]: Other open platforms
by Morgan on Tue 17th Dec 2013 17:47 UTC in reply to "RE: Other open platforms"
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Nope, you're not a fanboy until you start making outrageously false claims that it somehow mops the floor with the competition, butters your bread, discovers new star systems, etc.

I love the concept of Firefox OS, and it's on the table as a future long-term solution since it runs on phones compatible with my chosen network. I'm trying to ramp down my tech purchases though; after all I still have an N900 if I want to play around with an open phone. Wait, now there's a cool idea: FFOS on an N900!

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RE[3]: Other open platforms
by Lennie on Tue 17th Dec 2013 18:07 in reply to "RE[2]: Other open platforms"
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You want to ramp down your tech purchases ?

This is what I have:

I now regularly use a FirefoxOS phone, the Peak from Geeksphone and a Samsung ARM Chromebook with Desktop Linux (base install was ChrUbuntu).

One was 300 euro including shipping, the phone about 150 euro including shipping. Weight is 1 kg and 0.2 kg, for on the couch or on the go with always Internet. The Chromebook has a keyboard and gets about 6 hours battery life after many charges.

I think that is a pretty good deal.

(I also use a desktop at home and at work)

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RE[4]: Other open platforms
by Morgan on Tue 17th Dec 2013 18:31 in reply to "RE[3]: Other open platforms"
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You want to ramp down your tech purchases ?

Yeah, I've been through way too many phones the past few years, as well as various laptops and tablets. Granted, I rarely put out much, if any, real money; I tend to trade within a small circle of like-minded friends and family. But I'm trying to pare down to essentials and find a good long-term solution for mobile use.

I recently sold and traded off a few devices, including my netbook just today. I hope to end up with one desktop, one tablet and one phone in my collection, and my wife has her laptop, iPad and Kindle (though she is good about squeezing all the life and then some out of her devices, hence her first generation iPad and two year old phone and laptop).

I'm not counting our desktop PC-based DVR, of course, or my Raspberry Pi which is currently serving as a media player for the TV...see what I mean?

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RE[3]: Other open platforms
by bassbeast on Tue 17th Dec 2013 19:17 in reply to "RE[2]: Other open platforms"
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Question: Are the FF phones all still using REALLY crappy hardware?

Not trying to dis the OS, it looks nice, but it seems to be falling into the same slum that befell those Linux boxes that the BB retailers would carry. Take a FOSS OS, slap it on out of date hardware that you can't move anymore, call it a day.

If they put it on something with decent specs at an affordable price? Say something similar to what I've been seeing the $150 Android phones, 1.2 Ghz+ with 1Gb of RAM? Hell I'd be happy to try it, especially if they come out with a slider, but so far all I've seen are phones that have worse specs than my 2011 LG I got for free from the prepaid just for buying a phone card!

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RE[4]: Other open platforms
by Morgan on Tue 17th Dec 2013 19:29 in reply to "RE[3]: Other open platforms"
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I've tested it on a Nexus S and Nexus 4. It really doesn't matter so much about the raw hardware specs, as it is a very lightweight OS to start with. That's one of the things I really like about it, and why I'm only partly joking when I say I want it on the N900. Because lately, Maemo just seems so S-L-O-W compared to modern phones! I'd love for the N900 to have an OS as fluid and modern as Android on the Nexus 4 or Windows Phone on, well, any Lumia.

Anyway, because of its light footprint it can run well on very basic hardware. With Firefox OS I'd be focused more on screen quality and battery life than processor speed and RAM.

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RE[4]: Other open platforms
by thulfram on Tue 17th Dec 2013 21:27 in reply to "RE[3]: Other open platforms"
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I wouldn't say they were crappy (everything works), but as a retired engineer, I'd say that this is a developer phone and I don't drop it on the floor very often (I did accidentally and it burst open but wasn't hurt). I have a ZTE Open and for $79 (unlocked) I think the value is there. It could use more system memory. But everything works. I can make calls (just put in a SIM card), play music, play games, and write programs that run on it.

If anyone wants to know more about the practical Firefox OS programming, my blog is

Firefox OS is still growing but growing fast. And the main point is that the barrier to entry is very low.

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