Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 17th Dec 2013 00:05 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

We just discovered an issue in both and today which causes update of the store token required for accessing store repositories to fail. A fix for that has been pushed a few minutes ago: The update to version you might be seeing on your device soon contains exactly this one fix to keep store access working.

My Jolla arrived this morning, and I've been playing with it all day. It is by far the most exciting device and operating system I've used in a long, long time. When it arrived, the first update to the operating system was already waiting for me to be installed - and only a few hours later, another update is hitting the device. They have promised another large bugfix and stability update before the end of the year, with updates with new features arriving early next year.

These men and women know what they're doing. They're not overselling, and they keep their promises. A very promising start.

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RE[6]: Other open platforms
by Lennie on Tue 17th Dec 2013 23:18 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Other open platforms"
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Microsoft keeps telling people it's possible, but I haven't looked at it.

This has a bunch of links:

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RE[7]: Other open platforms
by Nelson on Wed 18th Dec 2013 00:39 in reply to "RE[6]: Other open platforms"
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The answer is yes and no. The HTML5 support is via an embedded browser control and PhoneGap which apparently has the official blessing of Microsoft.

Now YMMV with the experience, it isn't as seamless as it is on Windows 8 itself with HTML5 and the WinJS WinRT projections.

I'm not sure how big of a priority it is for Microsoft, HTML5 Windows Store apps are few and far between. IMO its been a massive distraction which probably negatively impacted design decisions around the Windows Runtime. Annoying.

This HTML5 fad needs to die already. Web tools belong on the web.

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RE[8]: Other open platforms
by moondevil on Wed 18th Dec 2013 09:56 in reply to "RE[7]: Other open platforms"
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This HTML5 fad needs to die already. Web tools belong on the web.

Fully agree, back in the first .com wave, I jumped with both feets into web development.

Nowadays I jump of joy every time I am requested to do native UI coding or backend stuff instead of web UI.

HTML/CSS/JS is such a clusterfuck for UI development to get right across all browsers and operating systems, specially when enterprise customers ask for desktop like UX.

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RE[8]: Other open platforms
by thulfram on Wed 18th Dec 2013 17:36 in reply to "RE[7]: Other open platforms"
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That's what I thought, but I didn't know whether it had progressed since I last looked.

I wonder how Windows Phone 8 HTML5 performance compares to similar use-a-browser-control in Android (and maybe iPhone). It still feels like a hack, whereas Firefox OS is designed for HTML5 from the ground up.

I've been fascinated to watch the priority of HTML5 apps drop as Windows 8 progressed. In the early days the focus was on HTML5, changed to XAML, and finally to DirectX by the time they shipped. Kraig Brockschmidt and Jesse Freeman have written books on HTML5 for Windows 8 (not the phone), but I'm intrigued with your saying that HTML5 Windows Store apps are few and far between.

At their core, I think those Microsoft guys still love native, hard core, grit-your-teeth C (forget that modern C++ crap) and anything else is just not good enough. Which is okay but I also love the speed and freedom of HTML5 and the easy development environment of Firefox OS. Make it easy and I'm there, even though my background is machine language and bit-twiddling.

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