Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Dec 2013 17:24 UTC
Windows

2013 was nothing less than a blockbuster success for Windows Phone, which went from industry also-ran to the undisputed third mobile ecosystem, and is poised to challenge iPhone for the number two spot. You didn't think it could get this good? That's OK, neither did I.

Windows Phone seemingly turns a corner with every new application, small operating system update, and new Nokia Lumia. It's turning so many corners it's running in circles.

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Europeans...
by galvanash on Thu 19th Dec 2013 15:35 UTC
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According to Kantar Worldpanel, Windows Phone in Q3 commanded 8.2 percent market share in the five biggest European markets—UK, Germany, France, Italy and Spain—exceeding 10 percent in some of them.


I'm used to people on this forum asking me "what the f*ck is wrong with you Americans" because, well..., we do a lot of weird stuff ;)

But I have to ask after reading this (for my friends on the other side of the pond):

What the f*ck is wrong with you Europeans?

Seriously though, WHY is Windows Phone selling so much better in Europe?

I don't get it. Do you use phones differently there? Is it different pricing? Is it more about Nokia than the OS? What is it? What makes Windows Phone sell at twice the rate it does in the states?

Edited 2013-12-19 15:37 UTC

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RE: Europeans...
by chithanh on Thu 19th Dec 2013 17:14 in reply to "Europeans..."
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2006-06-18

Seriously though, WHY is Windows Phone selling so much better in Europe?

I don't get it. Do you use phones differently there? Is it different pricing? Is it more about Nokia than the OS?

A large part is indeed Nokia brand loyalty. People keep on buying Nokia phones, though fewer than during Symbian times.

The OS itself is not in demand, or as one European mobile carrier executive famously put it, "no one comes into the store and asks for a Windows Phone."
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/european-carriers-nokias-lumia-s...

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RE[2]: Europeans...
by Nelson on Thu 19th Dec 2013 18:18 in reply to "RE: Europeans..."
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2005-11-29

You're citing a report from 2012 in response to Windows Phone turning a corner in 2013?

I know that the Nokia brand being the only reason the phones sell is a popular narrative around here, but its pretty much impossible to tell until the Nokia brand ceases to be in use.

Fortunately, the Microsoft deal closes in Q1 with the new branding coming into effect in earnest around Q2-Q3.

Its likely that until then we won't know with any degree of confidence. Stop guessing.

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RE: Europeans...
by zima on Sun 22nd Dec 2013 00:29 in reply to "Europeans..."
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Seriously though, WHY is Windows Phone selling so much better in Europe?
I don't get it. Do you use phones differently there?

Winphone does seem to work quite good as an "advanced feature phone" of sorts, for people whose life don't resolve around their phone; at least the situation with apps isn't so bad in such case...

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