Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Dec 2013 20:47 UTC

Apple today announced the all-new Mac Pro will be available to order starting Thursday, December 19. Redesigned from the inside out, the all-new Mac Pro features the latest Intel Xeon processors, dual workstation-class GPUs, PCIe-based flash storage and ultra-fast ECC memory.

This thing is so damn awesome. I don't need it, but I still want one.

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by roblearns on Thu 19th Dec 2013 15:54 UTC
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In the world of legal mac's - I see most often businesses near to me - using iMacs.

But if you need more cores or dual graphics cards, you'll have to go the Mac Pro.

Most businesses I know are not willing to do anything except buy from apple if they need a mac. They aren't going to upgrade a 2009 mac pro from ebay, they aren't going to build a hackintosh. And - they aren't going to buy a windows machine if they are planning on buying a Mac. Oh don't get me wrong, the vast majority of shops are windows shops, but if you have a mac need as defined by believing they had the need in the past, and have mac's today, for the most part they are getting a mac as their next machine too.

So, the question really becomes, upgrade today or wait.

The answer is wait. I don't understand why people don't bring up the real point about these machines - they aren't that much faster.

They aren't that much faster because they are no longer dual processor.

With Xeon if you up the core count, you lower the single core max speed.

That may be fine for servers - but this is a workstation. Workstation users have various workloads - not a really highly defined single workload. So upping the cores - but having to sacrifice single core speed - sucks.

In the past you could get past that suckitude, by getting two 6-core xeons. (OK, now I'm being inconsistent, because Apple's official options were slow, but you could buy faster dual 6-core xeon's). Then you had a higher single core speed - and overall 12 cores as well.

Maybe in the future you'll have some jobs that require dual gpu's, but anyway that's not really a concern for me at this time.

Anyway I already have 8-cores, and spending $7,000 bucks to get a slight performance increase with a 12 core machine - but actually doing worse on some workloads - , is a no-go.

And for a business that did purchase an Apple spec'd 12-core westmere at 2.66ghz, what are they getting with a 12-core 2.7ghz latest generation? Worth 7,000? Not for most businesses is my guess. If you want dual GPU's, just upgrade the GPU's in your existing mac pro.

Edited 2013-12-19 16:06 UTC

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