Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Dec 2013 17:24 UTC
Windows

2013 was nothing less than a blockbuster success for Windows Phone, which went from industry also-ran to the undisputed third mobile ecosystem, and is poised to challenge iPhone for the number two spot. You didn't think it could get this good? That's OK, neither did I.

Windows Phone seemingly turns a corner with every new application, small operating system update, and new Nokia Lumia. It's turning so many corners it's running in circles.

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RE: Europeans...
by chithanh on Thu 19th Dec 2013 17:14 UTC in reply to "Europeans..."
chithanh
Member since:
2006-06-18

Seriously though, WHY is Windows Phone selling so much better in Europe?

I don't get it. Do you use phones differently there? Is it different pricing? Is it more about Nokia than the OS?

A large part is indeed Nokia brand loyalty. People keep on buying Nokia phones, though fewer than during Symbian times.

The OS itself is not in demand, or as one European mobile carrier executive famously put it, "no one comes into the store and asks for a Windows Phone."
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/european-carriers-nokias-lumia-s...

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RE[2]: Europeans...
by Nelson on Thu 19th Dec 2013 18:18 in reply to "RE: Europeans..."
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

You're citing a report from 2012 in response to Windows Phone turning a corner in 2013?

I know that the Nokia brand being the only reason the phones sell is a popular narrative around here, but its pretty much impossible to tell until the Nokia brand ceases to be in use.

Fortunately, the Microsoft deal closes in Q1 with the new branding coming into effect in earnest around Q2-Q3.

Its likely that until then we won't know with any degree of confidence. Stop guessing.

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RE[3]: Europeans...
by glarepate on Thu 19th Dec 2013 20:13 in reply to "RE[2]: Europeans..."
glarepate Member since:
2006-01-04

I know that the Nokia brand being the only reason the phones sell is a popular narrative around here, but its pretty much impossible to tell until the Nokia brand ceases to be in use.


The fact that Nokia now has 90% of all sales of the OS kind of flies in the face of your assertion that it's impossible to tell whether the OS sells on it's own merits.

Huawei, having displaced HTC in this niche, is now number two in winphones and they are part of that 10% that is not Nokia.

LG quit offering them due to lack of sales.

Samsung can't sell them in any meaningful volume either.

If the OS is that attractive it should have had some halo effect on the other vendors instead of causing Nokia to kill all the others off.

Whistling past the graveyard ...

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