Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Dec 2013 17:24 UTC
Windows

2013 was nothing less than a blockbuster success for Windows Phone, which went from industry also-ran to the undisputed third mobile ecosystem, and is poised to challenge iPhone for the number two spot. You didn't think it could get this good? That's OK, neither did I.

Windows Phone seemingly turns a corner with every new application, small operating system update, and new Nokia Lumia. It's turning so many corners it's running in circles.

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RE[2]: Europeans...
by Nelson on Thu 19th Dec 2013 18:18 UTC in reply to "RE: Europeans..."
Nelson
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2005-11-29

You're citing a report from 2012 in response to Windows Phone turning a corner in 2013?

I know that the Nokia brand being the only reason the phones sell is a popular narrative around here, but its pretty much impossible to tell until the Nokia brand ceases to be in use.

Fortunately, the Microsoft deal closes in Q1 with the new branding coming into effect in earnest around Q2-Q3.

Its likely that until then we won't know with any degree of confidence. Stop guessing.

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RE[3]: Europeans...
by glarepate on Thu 19th Dec 2013 20:13 in reply to "RE[2]: Europeans..."
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2006-01-04

I know that the Nokia brand being the only reason the phones sell is a popular narrative around here, but its pretty much impossible to tell until the Nokia brand ceases to be in use.


The fact that Nokia now has 90% of all sales of the OS kind of flies in the face of your assertion that it's impossible to tell whether the OS sells on it's own merits.

Huawei, having displaced HTC in this niche, is now number two in winphones and they are part of that 10% that is not Nokia.

LG quit offering them due to lack of sales.

Samsung can't sell them in any meaningful volume either.

If the OS is that attractive it should have had some halo effect on the other vendors instead of causing Nokia to kill all the others off.

Whistling past the graveyard ...

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RE[4]: Europeans...
by Nelson on Thu 19th Dec 2013 20:18 in reply to "RE[3]: Europeans..."
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

I think that Nokia owns 90% of Windows Phone because its relative to the amount of effort they put in. Can't remember the last time I even saw an advertisement for another OEMs Windows Phone.

It also has to do with the fact that Nokia has a device at every price point in many, many more markets than Samsung, HTC, et all.

Nokia also has significant value-add, has Microsoft matched funding for carrier promotion, and very aggressively prices their devices. You can get a 520 for $60 in the states.

I'll agree to disagree until 2014.

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